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std
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 Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:58 pm Post subject: Zorki with strange looking Industar 22 |
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std wrote:
Whille browsing the local auction site i saw this Zorki
http://auction.bg/item.php?id=1281422
The Lens is Industar -22 but not the collapsible version and doesn't look like the regular L39 Industars.
Is it a rare combination?
Any info is appreciated 
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Info on sovietcams ?
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twinquartz wrote:
Odd: why has middle section oxidized
differently from other sections? |
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philslizzy
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| Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
looks like this one, perhaps not actually made for the Fed/Zorki
link to page I found this:
http://fedka.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=214
EDIT: Here it is with info: http://www.ussrphoto.com/wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=25&ParentID=2&ContentID=322
also found here with a well dodgy description
| twinquartz wrote: |
Odd: why has middle section oxidized
differently from other sections? |
Made of 2 metals, polished aluminium and matt chrome.
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Drack
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| Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Drack wrote:
This is a very limited edition Industar-22 with a no longer collapsible body design. These are pretty hard`ish to find. As far as I know these lenses were originally put on several models of the Zorki camera line, such as Zorki-1 , C and 2C. Apart from a different body, this lens is completely the same as collapsible versions.
As for the middle section. This is a very specific layer of coating that was put on quite a lot of Russian lenses that had aluminum bodies ( both RF and SLR lenses ). This coating would prevent the lens from getting scratched and most of all it would prevent the aluminum from oxidizing. This is a very useful coating which helped preserve many lenses in their original condition up until today. I do not know from what this coating was made nor weather it was a some sort of "extra" back in the day, but if I see a lens with it I`m almost certain it will be in great shape.
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std
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| Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Thanks guys.
The industar 22 is pretty nice lens and in this finish looks kind of nice.
I think i will take it
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Drack
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| Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Drack wrote:
| std wrote: |
Thanks guys.
The industar 22 is pretty nice lens and in this finish looks kind of nice.
I think i will take it |
If the price is right - go ahead. These usually go for more than typical I-22 and has a greater collector value. I myself would love to find one for the right price.
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std
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| Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:00 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
It's not very expensive currently around 35 Eur and i think it will finish at this price.
For a little bit more i can get the collapsible version, but this would be more useful. I remember i was always worried if the lens will collapse by itself damaging the shutter of my Pen when i had a similar one
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| Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I have this one, it's a good performer and it's made for SLR, not rangefinder
Or maybe it's two versions?!?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| std wrote: |
It's not very expensive currently around 35 Eur and i think it will finish at this price.
For a little bit more i can get the collapsible version, but this would be more useful. I remember i was always worried if the lens will collapse by itself damaging the shutter of my Pen when i had a similar one |
Strange worry. A rubber band around the barrel is all that is needed to prevent collapsing lenses from ruining your sensor.
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Drack
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| Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Drack wrote:
| Nordentro wrote: |
I have this one, it's a good performer and it's made for SLR, not rangefinder
Or maybe it's two versions?!? |
You are very wrong here. The Industar-22 that is shown on the Zorki camera in the first reply is a whole different lens compared to the one on the Zenit camera. Industar-22`s same as Industar-50`s were made for both SLR`s and RF`s and had various variations between the start and the end of their production. The one which is discussed in this topic is a rare (uncommon ) variation of the RF version of the Industar-22 lens.It was made in ~ 1950-1953 and had a few different variations that had specific body parts etc.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
| Drack wrote: |
| Nordentro wrote: |
I have this one, it's a good performer and it's made for SLR, not rangefinder
Or maybe it's two versions?!? |
You are very wrong here. The Industar-22 that is shown on the Zorki camera in the first reply is a whole different lens compared to the one on the Zenit camera. Industar-22`s same as Industar-50`s were made for both SLR`s and RF`s and had various variations between the start and the end of their production. The one which is discussed in this topic is a rare (uncommon ) variation of the RF version of the Industar-22 lens.It was made in ~ 1950-1953 and had a few different variations that had specific body parts etc. |
Yes, true  Now I want the rangefinder type as well
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Nordentro wrote:
Well, I bought one to test
This guy had 5, got two left
Click here to see on Ebay
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std
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:10 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
I've got the Zorki body on first sight it's quite compact and lightweight - at least smaller than my Contax I.
Everything looks mint but unfortunately 60 years have passed since it was made and with the age the grease in the camera got hardened. The rangefinder is not moving by itself and also the shutter curtains are very slow even on high speeds. The lens on the other hand looks really nice.
I have to order again an L39 adapter
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SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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Drack
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Drack wrote:
The Zorki model 1 ( I`m assuming youve got that one) is a wonderful camera. I happen to have 7 in my collection and they all work great. I`ve bought them from fleemarkets or people ho had them sitting arround for 40 years, however all of them still work nicely. I did have to CLA the lenses, however cameras are ready to shoot. I love the way the zorki feels and operates. A true bargain leica if you ask me .
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Currently using:
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std
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
I read that it's quite common to have grease hardened in shutter mechanisms of old Zorkis and it should not be very difficult to clean it.
I think the body deserves to be cleaned properly - it just look so nice
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SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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Drack
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Drack wrote:
Yea, it`s quite easy. i suggest using lighter fluid. It will help to move the old grease loose.
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Forum members are olbigaded to a discount
DSLR: Pentax K-x + 18-55 kit + f4 35-75mm
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M42 lense: Helios 44-2 , Helios 44-3, Helios 44m , Tair 3 Phs , Mir-1B , Jupiter-37a, Industar 50-2, Industar 61 L/Z, Tlear-N .
Currently using:
Minolta X-700 + MD f1.7/50mm + Rokkor-X f2.8/28mm + MD f3.5 35-70mm MACRO
Zorki-4K + J-8 f2/50mm + J-12 f2.8/35mm
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