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Katastrofo
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:47 pm Post subject: Nikon Nikkor 105/2.5 AIS lens |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Recently received this off ebay, both body and lens:
as I want to get into this kind of portraiture:
Picture taken with above camera/lens plus this flash setup:
Love what this lens can do, a flickr fave with it mounted on the Nikon D90:
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This is one of the best around 100mm lens what I did ever try, top lens for sure , congrats! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Attila, thanks, the lens has quite a reputation, from the 5 elements 3 groups Sonnar from 1959, to the later version like this Xenotar
copy (5 elements 4 groups). |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I did try AIS version black like this and oldest NON AI, oldest non AI is average.Is this AIS lens ? _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Yes, this is the AIS model, more sought after than the older version. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
That is cool, look forward your pics! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:16 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Congratulations, that will surely be a like you'll like Bill! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
This is a superb lens. Small, good ergonomics, superbly built, excellent allround lens which shines at portraits AND landscape. It's one of the sharpest at infinity. And I love lenses that have built in lens hoods (even if some say they are not as effective). I should use my copy more often _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Attila, Klaus, and Pontus, thanks! Will be loading a roll of KG100 in the FG to try it. Another flickr fave and this time
from the aging 6MP Nikon D50 with the AIS version:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8376/8509601537_52223359b6_h.jpg
Trying to decide on the D5100 (has the improved articulated screen over the D5000, or the D7000 that has onboard flash commander)
Both share the same sensor... |
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I did try AIS version black like this and oldest NON AI, oldest non AI is average.Is this AIS lens ? |
I used only a few nikkor lenses.
Not the 105 (none of them). But can't beleave you.
A lot of fame for the non AI 105 in the 60's and the 70's. And is only average lens?
You have killed a mito!!!! |
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Schnauzer
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 2155 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
The camera and lense both look great Bill. I'm anxious to see what you get with the gold and this rig. _________________ Ron |
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anscochrome
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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anscochrome wrote:
The old non AI Sonnar lens certainly was no slouch in the portrait realm, as it was the gold standard for 35mm format portraiture all through the 1960's. The AI Gauss type lens was better optimized for portrait distances than the non AI Sonnar, precisely because it was used so much for that purpose.
I have a near mint late Sonnar design, I purchased with matching hood, caps, bubble case, and box for $100.00 at a swap meet in Omaha, NE, and do not feel the itch to get an AI version-the older version suits me just fine. |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Lucky you Bill as I would like this lens but it's expensive on the bay, but what has worked for me in the past (and now) against buying lenses like this is:- Just calm down as you (meaning I) don't really need these sort of lenses as I can equal any performance advantage for sharpness\quality in the final shot\results by...... just using my medium format film cameras _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Ron, thanks, anxious to see some results myself. Loaded KG200 by mistake, already had it threaded thru the take-up spool and just
went with it, senior moment.
Anscochrome, I've seen some amazing photos with the Sonnar version, can't blame you.
Excal, yes, but I have a little less weight to pack around, that's my story, and am sticking with it. |
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Ray Parkhurst
Joined: 04 Jul 2011 Posts: 497 Location: Santa Clara, CA, USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Ray Parkhurst wrote:
I've owned 3 versions of this lens: a late non-AI; an AI; and a couple of AIS. They all had their own strengths and weaknesses. My favorite was the AI for its sharpness and overall 3D character. The AIS was not quite as sharp, but had excellent saturation and contrast. The non-AI gave an almost soft-focus look to portraits, yet was actually pretty sharp. I think this was what made folks love the lens as a portrait lens yet reviews always went on about how sharp it was. It has a unique character at the portrait distance that I have not seen in any other lens. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
DR.JUAN wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
I did try AIS version black like this and oldest NON AI, oldest non AI is average.Is this AIS lens ? |
I used only a few nikkor lenses.
Not the 105 (none of them). But can't beleave you.
A lot of fame for the non AI 105 in the 60's and the 70's. And is only average lens?
You have killed a mito!!!! |
After shoot with may hundreds of lenses, hard to find not average one . 85-100mm usually nice even from Vivitar.
I had several copies from non AI 105mm lens, I wasn't impress enough to keep it ,even 6 yrs before when I did shoot with first one. I never had AI, just AIS, I sold only due common lens and I can buy anytime. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
I don't get it guys: don't we (hopefully) all know that it is not a lens that makes
an image unique, that it ultimately is the photographer knowing and using its tools
to the fullest? Do you still believe it is the lens? Oh and yes, the stork brings the
babies, I totally forgot...
I have no doubt that Bill will get fantastic images, from what I have seem of him! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Ray Parkhurst
Joined: 04 Jul 2011 Posts: 497 Location: Santa Clara, CA, USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Ray Parkhurst wrote:
There are a lot of noticeable differences between lenses. Same scene, same lighting, different result. Different "look", colors, saturation, bloom, bokeh, 3D character. I can see big differences between 3 different types of 105/2.5 Nikkors. So, same photographer, same techniques, different lenses = different results. |
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
Ray Parkhurst wrote: |
There are a lot of noticeable differences between lenses. Same scene, same lighting, different result. Different "look", colors, saturation, bloom, bokeh, 3D character. I can see big differences between 3 different types of 105/2.5 Nikkors. So, same photographer, same techniques, different lenses = different results. |
Has anyone ever done a comparison between all three? It would interesting to see they compare. FWIW, I have the later Ai-S version. |
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Ray Parkhurst
Joined: 04 Jul 2011 Posts: 497 Location: Santa Clara, CA, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Ray Parkhurst wrote:
DSG wrote: |
Ray Parkhurst wrote: |
There are a lot of noticeable differences between lenses. Same scene, same lighting, different result. Different "look", colors, saturation, bloom, bokeh, 3D character. I can see big differences between 3 different types of 105/2.5 Nikkors. So, same photographer, same techniques, different lenses = different results. |
Has anyone ever done a comparison between all three? It would interesting to see they compare. FWIW, I have the later Ai-S version. |
I should have said "I saw big differences" because I don't currently own any of the 3 lenses I owned. I also did not own all 3 at the same time... |
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Lena
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Lena wrote:
Do you think it makes sense to get a 105/2.5 Ais with a broken aperture "pin"? Otherwise the lens is in very good condition, one of the latest series, according to the serial no. It works wide open, only can't be stopped down. Is it a comples repair to fix something like that? |
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