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Agfa Super Isolette, Reala
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: Agfa Super Isolette, Reala Reply with quote

Got the roll back (91c with tax) that I took on Green Mountain. Thought I had
some shots of the bridge closer in, but was with the Contax that had the light
leak.







I took these early on when the lighting wasn't as good as it was an hour later.

Next time... Wink


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

#1 has great potential to fix in pp and finish it to a beautiful picture.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The image quality is excellent, as it was expected from the Super Isolette.
I think Bill that you have faced here the same problem why I stopped photographing forests from a distance: the forests front always looks flat.
Angle does not matter because compact masses of trees always tend to look flat no matter what angle.
They are amongst the most difficult subject to photograph, because their large scale allows for little to no adjustment.
Unless you have the luck of a very good foreground element to play with, all forests photos end up with an empty foreground and a flat background.
I have given up that subject now and only photograph single trees, or even just details of trees. Rolling Eyes


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
The image quality is excellent, as it was expected from the Super Isolette.
I think Bill that you have faced here the same problem why I stopped photographing forests from a distance: the forests front always looks flat.
Angle does not matter because compact masses of trees always tend to look flat no matter what angle.
They are amongst the most difficult subject to photograph, because their large scale allows for little to no adjustment.
Unless you have the luck of a very good foreground element to play with, all forests photos end up with an empty foreground and a flat background.
I have given up that subject now and only photograph single trees, or even just details of trees. Rolling Eyes

+1 and distance shoot is pretty hard for C41 films always.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Attila and Orio, yes, a little disappointing in results here. There was the faintest of
breezes that roughened the water's surface (have seen photos of this lake where the photog
was lucky to catch it on a windless day, glass smooth) and metering for 80 with the Reala
didn't help with slow shutter speeds, either. If I shoot this again next year for fall colors, will
be using Provia and Portra 400...and a tripod. Wink

Hummm, maybe try Provia 400x, think it's offered
in 120, will check.

I know the Super Isolette is a capable camera, just needs paired with the right photographer! Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Auto contrast, color and a little darkened image 10s in Acdseepro or Photoshop.





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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill, the photographer is fine, with the same subject and focal lenght I would have done the same or worse.
(I did in fact, you have not seen my attempts because I did not publish them Laughing )


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio, I'm thinking now I wish I had your restraint. Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila, thanks, they do look better!


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow,I can not get over how clear/crisp your images are,what Reala film did you use?....the reflections are amazing well worth the effort to go back and try for that perfect day of no wind... Very Happy

Attila, I like what you did it certainly has that extra punch now.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about Attila's edits, the trees look better but the water (in my opinion) looks better in the original pictures,
because real water never looks so sharp.

Quote:
Orio, I'm thinking now I wish I had your restraint. Laughing


Bill, don't underestimate your pictures, they are good, it's just me who is overly obsessed about dimensionality in pictures Rolling Eyes Laughing
(I wasn't so in the past, got worse with the age Laughing)


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first image that Attila reworked the water looks ok as I think the first image was a lot better to work with....I agree the #2 water reflections look bad....but it gives us an idea of the possibilities.. Very Happy


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio, thanks, and understand, am more than a little of a perfectionist, too *then why beat yourself
up with photography?-someone in the crowd asks* Laughing

Thought of just using a little curves on these to see what shakes.

Moira, thanks, too kind, I'll probably go back there this winter and try some black and white.
Colors (leaves) are pretty much on the ground by now.

Forgot to add, Reala is a ISO 100 film by Fuji.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would demonstrate on quick examples, don't have to accept scanner output of lab as final image. Spend more time on them restoration can be pretty successful, #1 is not questionable it is a good image need only a little fine tunning, #2 and #3 may works may not but worth to try it.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Attila, I'll play with it a little, but am more for a re-shoot than trying
to dress a pig in a suit. Wink


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Attila, I'll play with it a little, but am more for a re-shoot than trying
to dress a pig in a suit. Wink

Laughing C41 is hardest develop and scan process from all. If lab do something wrong overuse chemical , scan it badly you can re-shoot it 10x no luck. For similar shoots Velvia 50 or digital way to go in my opinion.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bill,I am not being too kind, you take some really great images...and create in me an itch to use film.I still have some rolls left in the fridge.

Do you scan your own or does the Film developers do it? Thanks for the details on the film.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moira, I scan my own film, both 35mm and 120 on an Epson 4490.

Attila and Orio along with Ian, have gotten really snooty with their fancy new
35mm scanners. Laughing

I hope you decide to try film again, can send you a camera plus film.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
Moira, I scan my own film, both 35mm and 120 on an Epson 4490.

Attila and Orio along with Ian, have gotten really snooty with their fancy new
35mm scanners. Laughing

I hope you decide to try film again, can send you a camera plus film.


Hey medium format is still Epson v500 Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila, I know, levels the playing field (a little). Smile


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
Attila, I know, levels the playing field (a little). Smile


Time to learn more Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
Katastrofo wrote:
Attila, I know, levels the playing field (a little). Smile


Time to learn more Laughing


Yes, but I think I've hit a plateau, dammit! Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had I used Portra 400 or Provia 400x to where I had faster shutter speeds, I would
have been a Knight of Photography...OK, maybe just a squire. Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
Attila wrote:
Katastrofo wrote:
Attila, I know, levels the playing field (a little). Smile


Time to learn more Laughing


Yes, but I think I've hit a plateau, dammit! Laughing


Noway , you can do for sure.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy I have plenty of cameras and lenses...it's good film developers locally.I may have a solution too that problem but costs would then come into play...I know I have too many excuses. Embarassed