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Karhallarn
Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 577
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject: Minolta MC 300mm f4.5 worth a try? |
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Karhallarn wrote:
Hi guys!
I'm missing my Nikkor Ai 300mm f4.5 since I sold it and our local dealer has a 300mm f4.5 Minolta MC Rokkor for sale at a price of 30€!
How does the Minolta compare to the Nikkor?
As my Samsung is in for service for the next three weeks, I need to rely on your thoughs!
Cheers,
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1694 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
rokkor lenses are as good of the quality as nikkors, take the lens you won't regret it. you could always resell it _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I had bunch of Nikon and Minolta both, Nikon has more stable , better quality in general , Minolta made some fantastic lenses , but not all excellent. For 30 EUR you not risk much I think lens will be above all lenses what you can get for this sum and in lucky case this will be good as your Nikkor. _________________ -------------------------------
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:49 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
It's supposed to be a sharp lens, but I haven't tried one personally. For that price, if it's in good shape I'd grab it. you can always resell it if it dosen't meet your needs. _________________
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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Karhallarn
Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 577
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Karhallarn wrote:
Bought it!
It's in nearly mint condition apart from some small fungus on one of the inner frontal lenses! Maybe I can disassemble and clean it!
Mechanically this lens is a dream!
I'm looking forward to testing this lens out, sadly my NX11 was sent in for repairs...
I'm posting pictures as soon as I have my camera back! _________________ www.MoWePhoto.de
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Congrats.
I have that lens too. _________________ La migliore cura di LBA � imparare una nuova lingua. Le meilleur rem�de de LBA est d'apprendre une nouvelle langue. La mejor cura del LBA es aprender una nueva lengua. |
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Karhallarn
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:46 am Post subject: |
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Karhallarn wrote:
My camera is back (without fixes...).
So here are some samples with the Minolta MC 300mm!
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tf
Joined: 29 Sep 2017 Posts: 162
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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tf wrote:
I believe it's not a simple question in the topic even for Minolta fans - review of MC-I Minolta 300mm F/4.5 is here
UPD: MC-I Rokkor vs MD-III 300mm 1:4.5 head-to-head comparison |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Thank you for these - as usually! - careful made comparisons.
I have a Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/300mm on my way; this was the first 4.5/300mm with SR bayonet. It is a [4/3] construction, much simpled than the MC 4.5/300mm, and without LD glass of course (i suspect the MC 4.5/300 to have a sort of LD glass, since there are some remarks about "new glass" in the contemprorary German Minolta literature). The MD 4.5/300mm (the IF lens) was said to have an new prorietary Minolta LD glass as well. I'm not sure if it was a LD glass (abbe number around 70) or even an AD/ED/ULD glass (abbe number aroud 80). The Minolta MD 4.5/300 IF has a s little CAs as the Nikkor AiS 4.5/300mm ED-IF.
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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tf
Joined: 29 Sep 2017 Posts: 162
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:39 am Post subject: |
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tf wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
I have a Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/300mm on my way; this was the first 4.5/300mm with SR bayonet. It is a [4/3] construction, much simpled than the MC 4.5/300mm, and without LD glass of course (i suspect the MC 4.5/300 to have a sort of LD glass, since there are some remarks about "new glass" in the contemprorary German Minolta literature). The MD 4.5/300mm (the IF lens) was said to have an new prorietary Minolta LD glass as well. I'm not sure if it was a LD glass (abbe number around 70) or even an AD/ED/ULD glass (abbe number aroud 80). The Minolta MD 4.5/300 IF has a s little CAs as the Nikkor AiS 4.5/300mm ED-IF.
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Thank you for the information Stephan,
by the way, did you have experience with 300/5.6 versions? I've heard an opinion that some 300/5.6 version /don't know what design was mentioned exactly/ is very sharp and even may be sharper than 4.5 sisters, but I still didn't get this lens and not sure that get it soon |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
tf wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
I have a Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/300mm on my way; this was the first 4.5/300mm with SR bayonet. It is a [4/3] construction, much simpled than the MC 4.5/300mm, and without LD glass of course (i suspect the MC 4.5/300 to have a sort of LD glass, since there are some remarks about "new glass" in the contemprorary German Minolta literature). The MD 4.5/300mm (the IF lens) was said to have an new prorietary Minolta LD glass as well. I'm not sure if it was a LD glass (abbe number around 70) or even an AD/ED/ULD glass (abbe number aroud 80). The Minolta MD 4.5/300 IF has a s little CAs as the Nikkor AiS 4.5/300mm ED-IF.
Stephan |
Thank you for the information Stephan,
by the way, did you have experience with 300/5.6 versions? I've heard an opinion that some 300/5.6 version /don't know what design was mentioned exactly/ is very sharp and even may be sharper than 4.5 sisters, but I still didn't get this lens and not sure that get it soon |
I do own all the three different Minolta 5.6/300mm lenses, namely the Rokkor QD 5.6/300mm [4/4], the Tele Rokkor PD 5.6/300mm [5/5], and the MD Tele Rokkor 5.6/300mm [also 5/5]. Due to difficulties with air turbulences and haze, i have never pubished the corresponding test results. I may try to re-test them as soon as possible, when the air is calm and clean ... _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
I just got a nearly pristine Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/30cm - which means that i can compare most Minolta SR 300mm lenses now:
- Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/30cm
- MC I Tele Rokkor HF 4.5/300mm
- MC II Tele Rokkor HF 4.5/300mm
- MC X Tele Rokkor HF 4.5/300mm
- MD-II Tele Rokkor 4.5/300mm (IF)
- Tele Rokkor QD 5.6/30cm
- MC X Tele Rokkor PE 5.6/300mm
- MD-II Tele Rokkor 5.6/300mm
Results will follow tomorrow. _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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tf
Joined: 29 Sep 2017 Posts: 162
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:47 am Post subject: |
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tf wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
I just got a nearly pristine Tele Rokkor QD 4.5/30cm - which means that i can compare most Minolta SR 300mm lenses now |
Thank you for this in advance |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:36 am Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Here's a first overview, with preliminary results including a few famous Canon, Nikon, Oly and Pentax lenses.
24MP FF, 100% crops from the extreme corners.
Stephan
Most interesting in my opinion:
1) Nikkor 4.5/300mm IF-ED has as much lateral CAs as the Minolta MD-II 4.5/300mm IF, the Olympus OM 4.5/300mm or the Pentax M* 4/300mm ED (three large ED lenses!).
2) The oldest Minolta lenses in this thest (QD 4.5/300 and QD 5.6/300) have less CAs than their later counterparts, but also less resolution wide open
3) By far the best lens is Canons venerable FL-F 5.6/300mm (1968): It is the first "consumer" lens with artificial fluorite elements ever produced; the later FL-F/FD-F 2.8/300mm has more CAs.
I have re-run the test a second time, including a few more lenses such as the Canon FD-F 2.8/300, the Minolta AF 2.8/300, and a few Zooms including the nFD 5.6/100-300 mm L. Results will follow on artaphot.ch _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Blazer0ne
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Blazer0ne wrote:
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Blazer0ne wrote: |
Stevemark, nice! Shot with Sony FF sensor? |
Yes, as usual with 24 MP FF A7II!
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