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Chinon Bellflower vs Takumar Bellflower :)

 
 
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Prometheus



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Chinon Bellflower vs Takumar Bellflower :) Reply with quote

Hard subjects to get exactly the same photo off.... moving in the wind on the side of the road.

Chinon

Bellflower - Chinon 55mm/1.7 by Mattias Wirf, on Flickr

Takumar

Bellflower - S-M-C Takumar 55mm/1.8 by Mattias Wirf, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my eyes the chinon is just a tiny bit ahead, not much in it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't see a difference worth mentioning really. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SonicScot wrote:
I can't see a difference worth mentioning really. Smile


Agreed, and a what difference there is could be down to handheld focusing and exposure Wink

But a fun experiment, I did some more comparison between these two. The most important thing for me is really not the lens in itself, but which I can use the best to make pictures... The feeling there was that the Takumar was easier to handle.

Heres two more

Chinon

Bellflower 2 - Chinon 55mm/1.7 by Mattias Wirf, on Flickr

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Bellflower 2 - S-M-C Takumar 55mm/1.8 by Mattias Wirf, on Flickr
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ChromaticAberration



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Takumar is clearly smoother bokeh-wise but other than that It would be hard to tell the difference.
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SonicScot



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah well, if the Tak handles better in your hands it wins! Wink
I think comfortable handling is very important, more so with mf lenses than af ones. If I could afford it most of my lenses would be Taks, I love how they feel in my hands. Very Happy
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Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5 (Kiron)
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios 44-2 58/2
Nikon 50/1.2 Contax Zeiss Planar 50/1.7
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the Chinon i think renders lovely when used in certain ways.
If you dont mind i will post a sample of what i refer to.
This was taken this afternoon wide open at F1.7 and at 0.5m
i love the oil like rendering the chinon does and its very sharp wide open.



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Cameras
Digital
Sony A700, Sony Nex 3, Sony A55
Manual Cameras
Minolta X300, Fujica ST801, Yashica FX-D

Manual Lenses
Russian
M42 Jupiter 11A 135 F4, Helios 44M-4, Helios 44M-2, Industar 50/2 F3.5, Vega 12b, Mir 1B, Jupiter 8 chrome version. Jupiter 9 m39 chrome version.
German
Aus Jena Pancolar 50mm F1.8
Biotar f2
Japanese
Yashicas
Yashica ML 28-85, Yashica 50mm F2 ML
M42/M39 Mounts
Chinon 55mm F1.7, Cosinon F2.8 MC 28mm, Asahi Pentax Takumar 105mm f2.8, Auto Takumar 55mm F2.2 (10 Blade version 1961) Carenar F2.8 135, Fujinon EBC 55mm, Hanimex 400mm F6.3, Petri 55mm F2.0, Vivitar 24mm F2.8, Seriese 35mm F2.8 (Sankor), soligor 105mm f4(m39),Vivitar 90mmMacro f2.8 (komine)
Minolta MD Mount
Minolta Rokkor-X 50mm F1.4 PG,Minolta 58mm F1.4 PF, Minolta MD 50mm F1.7, Kenlock MC Tor 28mm,minolta 35-70 f3.5 macro.
Konica AR Mount
Konica Hexanon 40 F1.8, Konica Hexanon 135mm, Konica Hexanon 28mm F3.5, Konica Hexanon 50mm f1.7 (2 copies), Konica AR 50mm F1.8
Pentax PK mount
Pentax-m 50mm f1.7, Pentax-m 28mm f2.8, kiron 28mm f2
Olympus OM mount
Super Paragon 24mm f2.8, Tokina 28mm pmc II f2.8

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SonicScot



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eddieitman wrote:
Well the Chinon i think renders lovely when used in certain ways.
If you dont mind i will post a sample of what i refer to.
This was taken this afternoon wide open at F1.7 and at 0.5m
i love the oil like rendering the chinon does and its very sharp wide open.



I agree with the 'oil like rendering' but I'm struggling to find a part of that image that is sharp. Sad (sorry)
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7D (Magic Lantern Alpha II)
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Tair 3 4.5/300-A
CZJ 180/2.8
CZJ 135/3.5
Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 macro (Bokina)
Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5 (Kiron)
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios 44-2 58/2
Nikon 50/1.2 Contax Zeiss Planar 50/1.7
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye

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