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kyonthinh
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 Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:44 pm Post subject: Pentacon 30 3.5 - one day in Leipzig with B/W |
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kyonthinh wrote:
Well, as I said, I didnt like it. But because it gives 45mm in Crop camera, it's worth a try.
All wide open, and i'm new in B/W, so pictures are not very good. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Looks as though flare may be an issue?
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| Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This is a lot better lens what you did present here 
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ducdao wrote:
The results are terrible. I have this lens and it's not that bad. Maybe you should try stopping it down, this lens is not meant to be shot wide open.
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kyonthinh
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kyonthinh wrote:
I think I have a bad copy, in color it's always too soft. Maybe I should throw it out when I have time and money and buy me another. |
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Laurence
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:10 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
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| I think I have a bad copy, in color it's always too soft. Maybe I should throw it out when I have time and money and buy me another. |
I have issues with my 30/3.5. I'm probably going to send to Moleman to at least get it cleaned up. I agree with the poster
about shooting wide open at 3.5. Not very good results when wide open.
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fermy wrote:
Ok, so technically it's not great, but IMHO some pictures have distinct vintage charm. I quite like the stairs, the cameras and the last one. I find the softness and the glow quite pleasant. IMHO it creates the illusion of a very old movie. Should be interesting for female portraits too. I wouldn't try to squeeze any sharpness from it, just use as a softfocus lens.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, so technically it's not great, but IMHO some pictures have distinct vintage charm. I quite like the stairs, the cameras and the last one. I find the softness and the glow quite pleasant. IMHO it creates the illusion of a very old movie. Should be interesting for female portraits too. I wouldn't try to squeeze any sharpness from it, just use as a softfocus lens. |
I agree that some of these shots, especially the last, have some lovely old world charm to them. I've only used my version wide open on close-ups so I expect it's the same on larger scenes, it's still an excellent lens though. 
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
erm might be worth checking if someone had put one of the elements in the wrong way......it happened to me from an ebay lens.
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woodrim
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I have the Meyer zebra version and find it to be a wonderful lens. Tack sharp with great colors. However, mine had bad haze when I received it, which I cleaned - now still has haze, but not as bad. This is the lens I now pick up when I need something in that general focal length, even though it is relatively slow. I actually like it better than my Flek 35/2.4.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I've had three copies of this lens and one did have a similar look to this one, due to being full of fungus, a complete coating of two elements with the thin, wispy kind. After I cleaned it the IQ improved dramatically and it performed like the others.
The way this one is performing right now, it's definitely got something wrong with it.
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kyonthinh
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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kyonthinh wrote:
Can you show me how to open inner element? After I remove 3 parts, I dont see any screw which i must remove more. Thanks. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I wish I could remember, it's been 9 months or more since I did it, sorry.
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kyonthinh
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kyonthinh wrote:
Ok, I found out, I must remove from the front, not the rear.
Test with your post, ian. 
Still the same i think. |
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woodrim
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Yes, from the front, sorry I'm late to tell you that. I found the front easier to clean that the tiny rear element, and I suspect I still have haze remaining in my rear glass. To my knowlede the front elements are bonded into a single piece and cannot be installed wrong. The rear I don't remember if it could be reversed. I suggest you put the glass up to a very bright light and see if there is fogging. There sure appears to be a lot of diffusion in your pictures.
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Good luck Kyonith, I've had a few lenses that were like yours and ruined by fungus and haze, most of them I was able to clean, luckily, and I'm far from an expert.
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kyonthinh
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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kyonthinh wrote:
The rear is damaged, very sad . Maybe i will sell it or keep as soft lens. Good news is the shop near my house still have two meyer lydith, bad news is i dont have any money until next month.
Life is hard, isnt it? |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Riku wrote:
My Meyer 30/3.5 is good if you don't examine extreme corners or distortions...
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woodrim
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I agree about the corners, but they behave better when stopped down.
Before cleaned
No crop - after cleaning
Up close
Fully open, note upper left somewhat blurry
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I read this topic the other night and thought, "I like my Pentacon, I'm sure it's better than this ?" But I hadn't used it for a while, so I got it out today and tried it.
Cropped, but otherwise completely untouched, when zoomed in that's sharp ! and although it was a grey day I've seen CA in shots like this from lesser lenses, there's none here.
Straight out of the camera.
Straight out of the camera.
Big crop and auto levels to get some better exposure on the cat.
Sadly, I think Kyonthinh's Pentacon has a problem. normally it's a very good budget lens that is often overlooked because it is seen as 'cheap'. That's a shame, it's very good.
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Macca wrote:
Its a nice lens ,I like the mfd, this is with a close up filter 3+ at 5.6
and wide open can have a nice effect too
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