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guardian
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 Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: Tamron Adaptall-2 46A vs. 158A Screwup |
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 Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: Tamron Adaptall-2 46A vs. 158A Screwup |
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guardian wrote:
There are worse things, I'm certain. But it's not fun when you suddenly realize you don't know what you don't know.
It happened to me earlier today. I like the Adaptall-2 lenses and use this as my Bible for the non-SP lenses:
http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/Adaptall-2_LensIndex.html
So when I bid on and won a Tamron Adaptall-2 70-210mm lens recently on eBay, I assumed I had bought a 46A:
http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/46A.html
The lens showed up. It's not a 46A. It's not a 58A, either:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/userreviews/tamron-adaptall-2-70-210mm-macro-f-4-5-6-58a.html
And I had never even heard of the 58A. The lens I received, instead, is a Tamron Adaptall-2 158A. And, no, I had never heard of that model, either!
Now to be clear, these are plastic lenses and that's what I wanted. I wanted something light for my Olympus E-PL1. But now I have a lens about which I know nothing optically. The 46A, optically, was (to me) fine. Is the 158A equally good optically? I don't know. I can't locate much information on the 158A regarding resolution.
Bottom line I messed up. I didn't know what I didn't know. Heck, I was under the impression no Adaptall-2 lenses had been manufactured in the twenty-first century. That is wrong. Again. I'm very disappointed regarding the Adaptall-2.org website. I assumed it was all-inclusive. I should not have assumed.
So now I have an Adaptall-2 158A lens about which I know nothing. And it's not the fault of the seller. It's all on me.  |
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ManualFocus-G
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guardian
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guardian wrote:
ManualFocus-G
Groan. Well, I appreciate your kind reply, anyway. And it's a lovely set of photos.
But I am disappointed with myself. Live and learn? Yes, I guess that's what this is about for me.
I was holding out hope Tamron might have maintained optical quality and resolution on the modern version of the lens. Silly me.
Will I be more careful in future, and be certain of Tamron model number before bidding? Count on it. |
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luisalegria
 Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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luisalegria wrote:
The adaptall-2 site is incomplete in most of its sections, both old and new.
Whoever built it originally put in a lot of excellent work, but it was never finished.
I have or have seen undocumented Tamron lenses from most periods. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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nemesis101
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nemesis101 wrote:
Yes nice pictures though they do show one of the weaknesses of the 58a / 158a namely CA.. I feel your pain as I have all the varieties of 70-210 that Tamron made with adaptall mounts, both SP and standard grade, as well as two with adaptamatic fittings (the pre-cursor to the adaptall idea)
THE one to have is the f3-5 19AH, but I also have a high regard for the auto-focus built-in version too!
I've posted pictures taken with the latter here on the forum.
Doug _________________ Lenses and cameras:
Amateurs worry about equipment
Pros worry about money,
Masters worry about light. |
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guardian
 Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1750
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guardian wrote:
| luisalegria wrote: |
The adaptall-2 site is incomplete in most of its sections, both old and new.
Whoever built it originally put in a lot of excellent work, but it was never finished.
I have or have seen undocumented Tamron lenses from most periods. |
Indeed how right you are! It would be very wrong to criticize the site. Whoever built it doubtlessly contributed many, many hours of uncompensated labor. Thousands of people have been helped by that website I'm certain, myself included.
I only wish there could be the briefest note on the site warning it is not all encompassing. That's where I went wrong. I didn't realize the site's limitations. I didn't know what I didn't know, and there is no warning.
Others who have not already seen it might benefit from this more recent Tamron brochure. It includes mostly AF lenses as you would expect. But some of the more recent MF lenses are in the brochure, including the 158A:
http://www.commercialcameras.co.uk/pdf/tamron_lens_brochure.pdf
Beyond this I have sought without success to learn the resolving power of the 158A. That's a very valuable feature of the Adaptall-2 website, the availability of detailed resolving power (lines/mm) data. Also the design comments there are most helpful. I always try for those lenses which have been center optimized. This since I'm not using the periphery of lenses I purchase (exception: Pentax Auto 110 lenses). Lenses designed to have slightly better edge sharpness at expense of center resolution are (to me) less desirable. |
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