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f6cvalkyrie



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phenix jc wrote:

Do you feel that the stabilization is better with the OM-D ?


The OM-D is the only camera I own that can shoot stabilized with manual focus lenses.
It certainly does a great job of that !

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kds315* wrote:
Thanks Mark. Not really a bad idea. Are you looking for:
- long working distance
- high magnification
- doughnut shaped bokeh
- rel. lightweight
or why do you require a mirror lens?

Another one...



DOF is razor thin



but the doughnuts are cute



I love this photos of yours Klaus, and i wondering what kind of lens you have used?

Do you know were i can get a mirror lens for my Canon 5D mark II? I live in Sweden and there is no place here were i can buy a mirror lens, really bad, guess they don't like them?!

I really would love to shot macros with a mirror lens, but i have no idea wich one to use, any one here with an idea?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Tammy.

This is the Tamron SP 500mm F8. I have the 55B model and it renders very well on the 5D MkII.

Here are some on ebay :
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=tamron+sp+500+f8&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_okw=&_oexkw=&_adv=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=200&_fpos=&LH_SubLocation=1&_fsradio2=%26LH_PrefLoc%3D1&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&_salic=3&_saact=3&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50

The 55B. This one is the same package I got.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamron-SP-500mm-f8-telephoto-mirror-lens-55B-Adaptall-2-case-lens-hood-/180823645984?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item2a19eddf20

55B is the oldest and has the advantage to have a detachable tripod mount and a built-in hood.
Optical design differences between 55B and 55BB are small.
55B : http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/55B.html
55BB : http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/55BB.html
I prefer 55B for its hood and its tripod mount (I believe the 55BB has no way to mount it on a tripod).

Next : how to mount it on the 5D MkII ?
Tis lens is a Tamron adaptall-2 lens. This is a special mount system which allows to mount them on any brand with the correct ad2 adapter. The more simple is to get a brand new one adapter with AF confirm chip. I have Big-IS ones which are very good :
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AF-confirm-Tamron-Adaptall-2-Lens-Canon-adapter-/120587648568?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c13957e38
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivier wrote:
Hello Tammy.

This is the Tamron SP 500mm F8. I have the 55B model and it renders very well on the 5D MkII.

Here are some on ebay :
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=tamron+sp+500+f8&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_okw=&_oexkw=&_adv=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=200&_fpos=&LH_SubLocation=1&_fsradio2=%26LH_PrefLoc%3D1&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&_salic=3&_saact=3&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50

The 55B. This one is the same package I got.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamron-SP-500mm-f8-telephoto-mirror-lens-55B-Adaptall-2-case-lens-hood-/180823645984?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item2a19eddf20

55B is the oldest and has the advantage to have a detachable tripod mount and a built-in hood.
Optical design differences between 55B and 55BB are small.
55B : http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/55B.html
55BB : http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/55BB.html
I prefer 55B for its hood and its tripod mount (I believe the 55BB has no way to mount it on a tripod).

Next : how to mount it on the 5D MkII ?
Tis lens is a Tamron adaptall-2 lens. This is a special mount system which allows to mount them on any brand with the correct ad2 adapter. The more simple is to get a brand new one adapter with AF confirm chip. I have Big-IS ones which are very good :
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AF-confirm-Tamron-Adaptall-2-Lens-Canon-adapter-/120587648568?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c13957e38


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Thanks a lot for all your tips!! So, this are the one to get those beautiful backgrounds?

You know, i have photographed a lot of macro, i have a website and a blog, if your interested, but in my case now - i'm looking for more artistic lenses. I try to do it with both my canon lens and sometimes my tamronlens, but i really have fall in love with those backgrounds.

Thanks a lot!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kram wrote:
danfromm wrote:
Mark, why do you want a long macro lens? Subjects you can't get close to? Just because?.


Danny Boy, I am an artist. We experiment. That's how we discover paths untread by science. Laughing
I am not just looking for a long macro lens, I'm curious about the shortest mirror lens I can get for macro as I like the rendering in some of these pix (you have to scroll down to see the donut highlight images).

The very last one is a good example of why I am seeking to perhaps use a mirror lens for macro.

danfromm wrote:
I ask because my three short little MicroNikkors (55/2.8, 105/2.8, 200/4, all AIS) have been all that I needed in most situations.

I have two of the three (not the 200mm) and they are very good. I replaced my 55/2.8 with a 60/2.8 Zeiss Makro-Planar which I like better.

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Hi Kram!

I'm new on this forum and don't really know how it works here Smile

But when i read what you are writing, i just feel the same way as you do - i'm also looing for the artistic feeling, and i have tried to create with both my canonlens and my tamron lens before, but haven't really got that feeling i'm looking for. But i will go on, trying.

I read what you wrote about the coin, do you know what i tried once? Smile I tried a bit of plastic thing in front of my lense on my canonlense, a 100 -2,8, and the result was this Unfortunatley the plastic thing wasn't a perfect circle, and know i'm looing for a lens that can give me what i'm looking for. A really love those image here from Klaus, the background was lovely, i love the dof.

Best regards

Tammy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW !
Beautiful result, Tammy !
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tammy , your technique has resulted into a very nice image.
It is art when.....two strangers are looking at your work and discussing
what it means to them.
or
It is art when.....a strangers unspoken attention is held for at least eight
seconds and that person turns to take a second look when walking away.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivier wrote:
WOW !
Beautiful result, Tammy !


Oooh, thanks a lot, plastic fantastic Wink Sometimes anyway Smile

I will try to take some more this summer, with a new lense or with plastic or maybe try a coin as Kram said? Smile

Unfortunatle my website is in Swedish, my blog to - but your welcome to check!

www.imageorama.com

www.imageorama.blogg.se

Best regards
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gmonkman1 wrote:
Tammy , your technique has resulted into a very nice image.
It is art when.....two strangers are looking at your work and discussing
what it means to them.
or
It is art when.....a strangers unspoken attention is held for at least eight
seconds and that person turns to take a second look when walking away.


You are very kind! Thanks a lot!

I have try to ask those photograper who used a mirror lens in their art what kind of lenses they use, but everybody seems to be so secret about it? Don't now why, cause i love to share my experience, and i have tried a circle bit of plastic.

yes, you are right about art!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tammy, there is no need to understand swedish when looking at your sites.

They are really great and I am very impressed.
The first one I saw is the frog's one. I looked twice at it...
Then I had a look at your other ones and I found them wonderful. I love the spirit behind them.

I'm very pleased to have you with us !
You're very welcome here Tammy. Smile

Oh, and it's quite good with gogl.. translation :
http://www.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fimageorama.blogg.se%2F
http://www.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imageorama.com%2F

Really wonderful photographies !

Are you a Pro photografer ?

Reading your few words about your life, it seems not.
At this reading, I deeply understand you and think I know your feelings.
You're a beautiful soul and I like, sorry love the way you see life. Thanks a lot for your photographies and for what you are.

My best regards, Tammy.

PS : if you wish you can add your links in your signature and add your country in your profile.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tammy, just saw this! Thnaks for sharing your cool spider-web bokeh!

I'll experiment next week...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivier wrote:
Tammy, there is no need to understand swedish when looking at your sites.

They are really great and I am very impressed.
The first one I saw is the frog's one. I looked twice at it...
Then I had a look at your other ones and I found them wonderful. I love the spirit behind them.

I'm very pleased to have you with us !
You're very welcome here Tammy. Smile

Oh, and it's quite good with gogl.. translation :
http://www.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fimageorama.blogg.se%2F
http://www.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imageorama.com%2F

Really wonderful photographies !

Are you a Pro photografer ?

Reading your few words about your life, it seems not.
At this reading, I deeply understand you and think I know your feelings.
You're a beautiful soul and I like, sorry love the way you see life. Thanks a lot for your photographies and for what you are.

My best regards, Tammy.

PS : if you wish you can add your links in your signature and add your country in your profile.


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Oliver, thank you so very, very much for your kind words!!

Hihi, that was a real funny english Wink Liked it a lot Smile

No, Oliver, i'm not a pro photographer! Once i tried to work with photos, not naturephotos - but photowork, and it was really not my kind of a melody. I can't create on commando, for me photo is freedom, no demands, nothing..., just beeing there in the nature among the animals is life for me.., then the images comes to me.

But, i do some work for magasins and some other work, but only with naturephotgraphy today, cause thats the thing i love in life.

Oliver, thanks for who YOU are, and your warming words!!

The best for you!

Tammy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kram wrote:
Tammy, just saw this! Thnaks for sharing your cool spider-web bokeh!

I'll experiment next week...


yes, please do and if you get something , please tell us about it!

Best regards
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx Tammy.
Have a nice day.
Smile
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