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NothingMan
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 Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject: First time with 1.2 lens. Zuiko 55/1.2 photos and thoughts |
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I recently got this lens in fantastic shape for peanuts. Im a bokeh lover so here are my thoughts:
This lens doesnt like day light at all  . Ive got hood on it all the time but in the daylight (open spaces, no shadows) this lens is pretty poor to my liking. Im talking wide open of course, havent even tried it stopped down because i got it for the 1.2. Photos seem washed out, almost no contrast at all, dreamy...yeah but Id like bit more contrast and sharpness in there. Against strongly back-lit objects with fine contours it is absolutely dreadful. However I tried it at night with artifical light, it behaves a lot, lot better!
Here are some examples, straight out of LR, 5DII RAW converted to 800px wide jpg with no filters. All shot wide open.
This is too soft for my tastes, can anyone recommend a really good 50 1.4 glass, which is preferably under $500. And Im only interested in its performance wide open, Ill never use it past f4...
Some shots are shot at ISO 12800 and all other 3200 and up so it might not reveal great deal about the lens.
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats! Still on my wishlist , great lens!
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Arctures
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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N2 and N8 are really excellent shots they rock! Some other shots are considering to be taken in different light situation or with off-camera flash. Every glass has it's stronger and weaker sides and there are no absolutely strong or weak lens at all. What for 50/1.4 best I've seen so far were: Planar 50/1.4, Pentax M SMC 50/1.4 and Nikkor 50/1.4.
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poilu
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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the lens look fine, editing should improve color balance and contrast
have you try it at f1.4 or f2 to see how much it improve
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NothingMan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | Congrats! Still on my wishlist , great lens! |
Thanks! I wasnt looking for one, it just came to me . However I like my lenses sharper than this 
These are edited photos, 1.2 is quite usable if the focus is spot on.
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jjphoto
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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If you're after a sharp (wide open) F1.4 lens then try the AE or MM Contax 50/1.4. They are also quite cheap.
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NothingMan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Arctures wrote: | | N2 and N8 are really excellent shots they rock! Some other shots are considering to be taken in different light situation or with off-camera flash. Every glass has it's stronger and weaker sides and there are no absolutely strong or weak lens at all. What for 50/1.4 best I've seen so far were: Planar 50/1.4, Pentax M SMC 50/1.4 and Nikkor 50/1.4. |
Ive had SMC Takumar 50 1.4 (sold it), I never liked it for some reason. Currently I have yashica ML 50 1.4 and I love it, wish it was tad sharper... I know yashica 50/1.4 is made to compete with planar, but just how much better planar is compared to yashica? It gets even worse when I paid for my yashica (in not so great shape) $35. I also used canon EF 50 1.4 and found it lacking wide open...
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hoanpham
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Nice one Hoan! I like all not only indoor shoots , BTW your Tomioka in my hands I will send it to you back soon, outdoor test is done, I plan to test indoor also in Basilica.
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NothingMan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| hoanpham wrote: | I found my copy is ok in daylight, but it really shines indoor 
#1 @f11
#2 @f11
#3 @f1.2
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Great shots! I dont even know what f11 looks like on a 1.2 lens  . Kidding aside, Im a wide-open-shooter so I wasnt really interested in how it performs past 1.2, because lets face it, any good 50 1.8 lens will be on par with it...
Thing is, when im not shooting wide open Im shooting wideangle, and Ive got 2 of those whose sharpness is tough to beat, and naturally bokeh is not important because there is no DOF.
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MF Lenses: S-M-C Tak 50 1.4 | S-M-C Tak 135 3.5 | S-M-C Tak 28 3.5 | Helios 44-3/44-2/44m-4/44-4 | Yashica ML 50 1.4 | CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 | Jupiter 37A | Zuiko 55 1.2 | Zuiko 24 2.8 |
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Arctures
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| NothingMan wrote: |
Ive had SMC Takumar 50 1.4 (sold it), I never liked it for some reason. |
I ment Pentax-M not Takumar. I also owned Takumar 50/1.4 and sold it too after I've got Planar 50/1.4. Haven't had that Yashica.
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jjphoto
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Arctures wrote: | | ...Currently I have yashica ML 50 1.4 and I love it, wish it was tad sharper... I know yashica 50/1.4 is made to compete with planar, but just how much better planar is compared to yashica? .... |
They render about the same but there is a noticeable difference in sharpness, sorry I don't have 100% crops online to link to.
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NothingMan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| jjphoto wrote: | | Arctures wrote: | | ...Currently I have yashica ML 50 1.4 and I love it, wish it was tad sharper... I know yashica 50/1.4 is made to compete with planar, but just how much better planar is compared to yashica? .... |
I have the ML 50/1.4 Contax 50/1.4 AE and MM. The 2 Contax lenses seem about the same and I'm not sure if there is any optical difference except due to sample variation. The AE has the Ninja aperture blades but I've never experienced that to matter.
The Contax 50/1.4 is sharper than the ML 50/1.4 at every aperture. Even stopped down the ML is not as sharp as the Contax, even though most 50's seem to be in the same ball park when stopped down.
They render about the same but there is a noticeable difference in sharpness, sorry I don't have 100% crops online to link to.
Contax 50/1.4 at F1.4
ML 50/1.4 at F1.4
These are at F8, 100% crops. These tests where not intended as proper lens tests and where just done on the spur of the moment so where shot handheld, but I think they are representitive of the difference between the lenses.
Contax 50/1.4 at F8
ML 50/1.4 at F8
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Ive read your review on FM forums, and Ive seen the difference. Great review btw . But like I said I paid peanuts for yashica ($35) and planars go up to $400 nowadays, so Im thinking if it would be smart to go for planar if i have yashica...In your opinion, is it worth it?
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hoanpham
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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You are not the only one who like to shoot at f1.2 outdoor
Here in snow condition:
#w1
#w2
Attila, Thanks. No rush. I still have a few to run through
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jjphoto
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| NothingMan wrote: | | ...Ive read your review on FM forums, and Ive seen the difference. Great review btw ... |
Thanks.
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