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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

walter g wrote:
Bumped foward for Tom. This is the 8 element Auto Miranda 50mm f1.4 that I mentioned in another thread.


Thank you Walter.
A very interesting lens.
I wonder who made it.
Tom


PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
walter g wrote:
Bumped foward for Tom. This is the 8 element Auto Miranda 50mm f1.4 that I mentioned in another thread.


Thank you Walter.
A very interesting lens.
I wonder who made it.
Tom


Your Welcome. I agree a very interesting lens.
Most likely all the Auto and Auto E lenses would of been made by Tokina.
The Auto EC lenses were made by Sun Optical.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

walter g wrote:
Oldhand wrote:
walter g wrote:
Bumped foward for Tom. This is the 8 element Auto Miranda 50mm f1.4 that I mentioned in another thread.


Thank you Walter.
A very interesting lens.
I wonder who made it.
Tom


Your Welcome. I agree a very interesting lens.
Most likely all the Auto and Auto E lenses would of been made by Tokina.
The Auto EC lenses were made by Sun Optical.


The 50/1.4 is such a different design with eight elements (?)
If made by Tokina, I wonder why it doesn't appear elsewhere under different branding.
What is the Kowa connection to Miranda
Tom


PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
walter g wrote:
Oldhand wrote:
walter g wrote:
Bumped foward for Tom. This is the 8 element Auto Miranda 50mm f1.4 that I mentioned in another thread.


Thank you Walter.
A very interesting lens.
I wonder who made it.
Tom


Your Welcome. I agree a very interesting lens.
Most likely all the Auto and Auto E lenses would of been made by Tokina.
The Auto EC lenses were made by Sun Optical.


The 50/1.4 is such a different design with eight elements (?)
If made by Tokina, I wonder why it doesn't appear elsewhere under different branding.
What is the Kowa connection to Miranda
Tom


Because they were most likely using their own lens designers, or lens designers from Soligor.
The Kowa connection was the early Soligor Miranda lenses, like the 5.8cm f1.5 you asked about. There was also a 3.5cm 2.8, and 5cm 1.9.
I'm not sure if the 8.5cm 1.8 was Kowa made or not.
I don't have a complete list, so I'm not sure how many different lenses were made.


PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

50/1,4, 8 elements and single coated

Hmmmm......

Low contrast?

CA?

Very prone to flare?


IT seems that Yes should be all the answers


PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

papasito wrote:
50/1,4, 8 elements and single coated

Hmmmm......

Low contrast?

CA?

Very prone to flare?


IT seems that Yes should be all the answers


Maybe no.
All images straight from camera RAW - no PP
Tom


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more from this excellent lens
Tom


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh stop it Tom Wink .

At the weekend I targeted two Mirandas with 1.8 auto's, two with 1.9 auto's, and one with a 1.4. I missed the lot. *sigh*


Onward....


PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sciolist wrote:
Oh stop it Tom Wink .

At the weekend I targeted two Mirandas with 1.8 auto's, two with 1.9 auto's, and one with a 1.4. I missed the lot. *sigh*


Onward....


All of those lenses are very good indeed.
I'm sure you'll snag one soon.
Tom


PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
One more from this excellent lens
Tom


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Nice, Tom. I'm glad you were able to find a copy of this lens. I was shooting with mine the other day.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
Sciolist wrote:
Oh stop it Tom Wink .

At the weekend I targeted two Mirandas with 1.8 auto's, two with 1.9 auto's, and one with a 1.4. I missed the lot. *sigh*


Onward....


All of those lenses are very good indeed.
I'm sure you'll snag one soon.
Tom


Yup, besides we need more people shooting Miranda glass on this forum. It seems to be a very small group of us.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a quick couple of pix from the back garden this afternoon.
Nothing special, but the lens does deliver.
Tom


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Superb lens.
Back element is completely flat - ala Tomioka ....... so I wonder..... ?
Anyway here is a shot at full aperture.
T


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This lens is a pleasure to use.
Tom
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2019 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

walter g wrote:


Because they were most likely using their own lens designers, or lens designers from Soligor.


Neither Soligor or Miranda designed lenses
They were supplying these from nearly all possible lenses manufacturers from Zunow to Cosina depending iof the period


PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a couple of portraits shot at widest aperture - f1.4 with this rather nice lens
Tom


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of shots from this morning.
There is a lovely glow at full aperture which you can see in the images.
Stopped down even a little and it is very crisp.
Tom


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice images and portrait.


PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did you adapt the Miranda lenses your digital cameras? With a home-made adapter, or are there any commercial solutions?

S


PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemark wrote:
How did you adapt the Miranda lenses your digital cameras? With a home-made adapter, or are there any commercial solutions?

S


I think that they are available commercially.
I think Vivaldibow has ordered one from somewhere.
I made mine.
I was given a Miranda Sensorex camera and a box of bits and pieces.
In the box was a Miranda mount which may have attached to a bellows at some stage.
Anyway, with that as a starting point and a badly made M39 to Fuji FX adapter, I tried some trial and error registration on the Fuji.
The addition of an old T mount was just the right length.
These three are simply epoxied together.
It looks like a dog's breakfast, but it works.
Here are some pix.
Tom


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
stevemark wrote:
How did you adapt the Miranda lenses your digital cameras? With a home-made adapter, or are there any commercial solutions?

S


I think that they are available commercially.


Yes they are indeed, e. g. from fotodiox (i got their Mamiya E => Sony E adapter some month ago; very well made!). I may - or may not - get one of those for my small collection of Miranda lenses (two different 2.8/28, the 1.4/50 [8/6], the 2.8/105 and a 2.8/135).

Thank you for the images!

S


PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
stevemark wrote:
How did you adapt the Miranda lenses your digital cameras? With a home-made adapter, or are there any commercial solutions?



I think that they are available commercially.
I think Vivaldibow has ordered one from somewhere.
I made mine.
I was given a Miranda Sensorex camera and a box of bits and pieces.
In the box was a Miranda mount which may have attached to a bellows at some stage.
Anyway, with that as a starting point and a badly made M39 to Fuji FX adapter, I tried some trial and error registration on the Fuji.
The addition of an old T mount was just the right length.
These three are simply epoxied together.
It looks like a dog's breakfast, but it works.
Here are some pix.
Tom




I got mine from Ebay but a used one. It works


PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldhand wrote:
Superb lens.
Back element is completely flat - ala Tomioka ....... so I wonder..... ?
Anyway here is a shot at full aperture.
T


My 50mm f/1.4 Auto Miranda (not E or EC) has a 46mm filter thread and the rear element is flat (completely flat to my eyes). It came from a Sensorex C camera. From Sensorex C's user manual, the last element of this 8/6 lens has a slight curvature, while the 7/5 50mm f/1.4 lens's rear element is flat. I am confused. It could be because the slight curvature is almost flat to my eyes.


PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vivaldibow wrote:
Oldhand wrote:
Superb lens.
Back element is completely flat - ala Tomioka ....... so I wonder..... ?
Anyway here is a shot at full aperture.
T


My 50mm f/1.4 Auto Miranda (not E or EC) has a 46mm filter thread and the rear element is flat (completely flat to my eyes). It came from a Sensorex C camera. From Sensorex C's user manual, the last element of this 8/6 lens has a slight curvature, while the 7/5 50mm f/1.4 lens's rear element is flat. I am confused. It could be because the slight curvature is almost flat to my eyes.

Yes, it can be deceptive.
If you really want to see if it is flat, hold a piece of paper on its edge across it and up against the light. Any curvature will show at the ends.
And, my eyes may have been seeing flatness where there was slight curvature. so perhaps my eyes are the problem Smile
Tom