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fotomachi


Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 656 Location: Estados Unidos de las Esferas Ultraterrenales
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RioRico


Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Most of my Koreans were / are zooms.
Sears Auto Zoom (KAR) 070-210/4.0 # 8604242xx
Sears Auto Zoom (KAR) 080-200/4.0 # 8610112xx
Albinar ADG Zoom (K-M) 080-200/3.9 # 841186xx
Albinar ADG Zoom (N/AI) 080-200/3.9 # 871516xx
Chinar ======== (K-M) 080-205/4.5 # 40445xx
Chinar ======== (K-M) 135/2.8 === # 403xx
Sears Auto MC == (K-M) 135/2.8 === # 8401017xx
Sears Auto Macro (KAR) 135/2.8 === # 8609010xx
Sears Auto Zoom (KAR) 028-070/3.5 # 8703090xx
Sears Auto Zoom (M42) 080-200/4.0 # 8408300xx
I kept the first two and sold the excessive others. Except for mounts, two of the four 80-200s were identical and the other two were close. All the 135/2.8s were very different. The Chinars build is quite distinct from the Albinars+Sears, so I assume two different lensmakers, Samyang and an unknown other. The Samyang serial numbers show production during 1984-87. Was that their hot period! _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:27 am Post subject: |
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I have an auto exaktar 35mm F1;2.8 made in Korea. Also known as Porst, Varexon and Aremac.No idea wether made by Samyang or not
goo.gl/caHoo (to a flickr set of these lenses) _________________ pentaxian |
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Pancolart


Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 1929 Location: Slovenija
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| dimitrygo wrote: | | kansalliskala wrote: | I had this "made in Korea" m42
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Those lenses are most intriguing for me because they have some attributes common to Sun made lenses. For instance their mount and A/M switch. |
I agree on that. Just comparing 2.8/35mm and 2.8/135mm that i have SUN and Korean version. Seems like SUN is responsible for this Korean line. _________________ P a n c o l a r t . P h o t o . G a l l e r y http://juredolzan.deviantart.com
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iangreenhalgh1


Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 9083
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Typical Samyang, there is a very common but actually rather good 2.8/135 under many brands that has the same styling. _________________ 'The question I would really consider (especially if an amateur and on a budget) is whether or not anyone (including yourself, of course) can tell the difference in any situation for which you will use the lens...and if they can, why are they burying their noses in your prints hard enough to tell the difference instead of responding to the prints emotionally and thinking about what they might mean?' - 2F/2F on apug.org
Digital: Sony NEX-3, Samsung NX100, Canon EOS 450d
35mm SLR: Konica FT-1, Konica FC-1, Konica Autoreflex T, Carena SRH760, Exakta RTL1000, Canon EOS 10qd
35mm VF: Olympus Stylus, Konica C35, Konica A4, Konica MG, Konica MT-9, Ricoh FF-9, Ricoh AF-80
35mm RF: Zorki 6, Kiev II, Kiev IV, Contax IIIa, CZJ Werra III,
Medium format: Franka Rolfix, Mess Ikonta 524/16, Voigtlander Bessa with Skopar 3.5/105, Voigtlander Bessa with Voigtar 3.5/105, Kiev 6C, Century Graphic 23, Ensign Selfix 820, Kershaw 450
MF lenses: Schneider Angulon 6.5/68, Componon-S 5.6/100, C-Claron 4.5/135, Xenar 3.5/105, Mamiya C 2.8/45, Mamiya 2.8/80, CZJ Flektogon 4/50, Biometar 2.8/80, Zodiac 3.5/30, Tominon 4.5/135, Pullin Pulnar 2.8/100
Large Format: Ernemann HEAG Series VII version II 9x12 with Kodak Anastigmat 6.3/170
Konica Hexanons 4/21, 2.8/24, 3.5/28, 2.8/35, 1.8/40, 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 1.8/50, 3.2/135, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 4.5/300, 3.5-4.5/35-70, 4-4.6/28-135, 3.5/35-70, UC 3.5/45-100, 4/70-150, 4/65-135, UC 4/80-200. Hexars 3.5/28, 3.5/135, Konishiroku 2.8/35
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.8/35, Skoparex 3.4/35, Tessar 2.8/50, Sonnar 1.5/50, Biotar 2/58, Pancolar 1.8/50, Cardinar 4/100, Zeiss-Opton Biogon 2.8/35
Meyer/Pentacons 2.8/28, Primagon 4.5/35, Trioplan 2.9/50, 1.8/50, 2.4/50, Primotar 3.5/50, Primotar 3.5/135
Topcon RE Auto Topcors 1.8/58, 3.5/135, 5.6/200
Russians: OKC1-18-1 2.8/18, OKC1-28-1 2.8/28, Jupiter-12 2.8/35, Jupiter-8 2/50, Industar-50 3.5/50, Industar-26M 2.8/50, Industar-22 3.5/50, Zenitar M2S 2/50, Helios-44-2, Jupiter-9 2/85, Jupiter-11 4/135, Tair-3C 4.5/300
Tokina 3.5/17, Nikon Auto Nikkor-N 2.8/24, Nikon Micro-Nikkor-P 3.5/55, Ross Xpress 3.5/4in, Ross Xpress 4/5in, Ross Xpress 4.5/8.5in, Wollensak APO-Raptar 10/541
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Pancolart


Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 1929 Location: Slovenija
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: | | Typical Samyang, there is a very common but actually rather good 2.8/135 under many brands that has the same styling. |
Is it Samyang or SUN subsidiary company? Carenars from Korea are different from SUN copies. One might doubt the same company from Korea made them.
Some photos of my distant twins.
Few valid questions that arise: are they of the same quality? Symbols that separate Japan made lenses from made in Korea? Did SUN stop production in Japan when it launched Korean? Was it the same company or Korea just bought SUN license and know-how?
Trying to answer first: beside obvious SUN's triangle / diamond, Japan made lenses have DOF scale and focusing scale in the same level.
Focusing ring ends differently. As you can see older 2.8/35mm SUN (Weltblick) has more differences, but optics surely is the same.
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dimitrygo

Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 429
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart, it's very impressing. I would say the Korean 135mm resembles some 135mm F3.5 lenses we identified as Sun made
May be both Sun and Korean maker have sourced their parts from the same maker or it was some sort of cooperation between them. |
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uberprutser
Joined: 01 Dec 2012 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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These have a sticker made in Korea.
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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My Korean exaktar
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iangreenhalgh1


Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 9083
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say the one on the left is definitely a Samyang:
These are definitely Samyangs, that 2.8/135 is the one I referred to, it's seen under literally a dozen or more brand names, I've had it a an Exaktar and a couple of other names I forget now.
 _________________ 'The question I would really consider (especially if an amateur and on a budget) is whether or not anyone (including yourself, of course) can tell the difference in any situation for which you will use the lens...and if they can, why are they burying their noses in your prints hard enough to tell the difference instead of responding to the prints emotionally and thinking about what they might mean?' - 2F/2F on apug.org
Digital: Sony NEX-3, Samsung NX100, Canon EOS 450d
35mm SLR: Konica FT-1, Konica FC-1, Konica Autoreflex T, Carena SRH760, Exakta RTL1000, Canon EOS 10qd
35mm VF: Olympus Stylus, Konica C35, Konica A4, Konica MG, Konica MT-9, Ricoh FF-9, Ricoh AF-80
35mm RF: Zorki 6, Kiev II, Kiev IV, Contax IIIa, CZJ Werra III,
Medium format: Franka Rolfix, Mess Ikonta 524/16, Voigtlander Bessa with Skopar 3.5/105, Voigtlander Bessa with Voigtar 3.5/105, Kiev 6C, Century Graphic 23, Ensign Selfix 820, Kershaw 450
MF lenses: Schneider Angulon 6.5/68, Componon-S 5.6/100, C-Claron 4.5/135, Xenar 3.5/105, Mamiya C 2.8/45, Mamiya 2.8/80, CZJ Flektogon 4/50, Biometar 2.8/80, Zodiac 3.5/30, Tominon 4.5/135, Pullin Pulnar 2.8/100
Large Format: Ernemann HEAG Series VII version II 9x12 with Kodak Anastigmat 6.3/170
Konica Hexanons 4/21, 2.8/24, 3.5/28, 2.8/35, 1.8/40, 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 1.8/50, 3.2/135, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 4.5/300, 3.5-4.5/35-70, 4-4.6/28-135, 3.5/35-70, UC 3.5/45-100, 4/70-150, 4/65-135, UC 4/80-200. Hexars 3.5/28, 3.5/135, Konishiroku 2.8/35
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.8/35, Skoparex 3.4/35, Tessar 2.8/50, Sonnar 1.5/50, Biotar 2/58, Pancolar 1.8/50, Cardinar 4/100, Zeiss-Opton Biogon 2.8/35
Meyer/Pentacons 2.8/28, Primagon 4.5/35, Trioplan 2.9/50, 1.8/50, 2.4/50, Primotar 3.5/50, Primotar 3.5/135
Topcon RE Auto Topcors 1.8/58, 3.5/135, 5.6/200
Russians: OKC1-18-1 2.8/18, OKC1-28-1 2.8/28, Jupiter-12 2.8/35, Jupiter-8 2/50, Industar-50 3.5/50, Industar-26M 2.8/50, Industar-22 3.5/50, Zenitar M2S 2/50, Helios-44-2, Jupiter-9 2/85, Jupiter-11 4/135, Tair-3C 4.5/300
Tokina 3.5/17, Nikon Auto Nikkor-N 2.8/24, Nikon Micro-Nikkor-P 3.5/55, Ross Xpress 3.5/4in, Ross Xpress 4/5in, Ross Xpress 4.5/8.5in, Wollensak APO-Raptar 10/541
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nukemall


Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 69 Location: Blagoveschensk, Russia
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Samyang made many zoom lenses.
18-28/4-4.5
28-70/3.5
28-70/3.5-4.5
28-200/4-5.6 (and 28-200/3.9-5.6)
Samyang 35-70/2.8
35-70/3.5-4.5
35-135/3.5
35-135/3.5-4.5
60-300/3.9 and 60-300/4-5.6:
70-210/4-5.6 and 80-200/3.9
75-300/4.5-5.6
Samyang made also AF zoom lenses.
28-70/3.5-4.5
35-135/3.5
70-210/4.5-5.6 and 70-210/4
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