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Lazzaros
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: Olympus Zuiko 55mm f/1.2 |
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Lazzaros wrote:
What do you think about this lens?
I know that all Zuiko lens are good but how about this one? Good performance?
And about it price? |
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Xpres
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
My favourite lens for portraiture with a 4/3 body. A bit ugly and soft wide open but best at f2 - 2.8 for me. _________________ Film... and sometimes SD14, 5D2 and some other suff! |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
And about the price? |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Won't be cheap, that's for sure. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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hexi
Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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hexi wrote:
Seen a moment ago on ebay, starting price at 300$. I have a Zuiko 1.4 50mm and it's already very good and bright.
The 55mm seems thought a very good lens to add in a collection |
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PBFACTS
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 565
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Olympus Zuiko 55mm f/1.2 |
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PBFACTS wrote:
Lazzaros wrote: |
Good performance? |
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Image taken at ~f2.0 and scanned from film :
[/url] _________________ OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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Lazzaros
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 975
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Something like 300€ for one in very good condition looks good?
I'd like to get one super fast lens |
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Xpres
Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 964 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
Not sure on price - I've had mine for a while. But about £200 ish for a good on I'd think.
Heres one wide open
And one about f5.6 Note the highlights....
_________________ Film... and sometimes SD14, 5D2 and some other suff! |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I like the results.
If someone has more please post here. I have one friend selling one and I have to know if I take it |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57852 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Lazzaros wrote: |
Something like 300€ for one in very good condition looks good?
I'd like to get one super fast lens |
You can get from 200 EUR one of the weakest 1.2 lens , Pentax, Nikkor ,Tomioka, Minolta all are better. Pentax 1.2 sharpest wide open if you need superfast lens.
I had Nikkor 1.2, Revuenon (Cosina), and Pentax I kept Pentax oh I have Konica 1.2 too. _________________ -------------------------------
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Lazzaros
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 975
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Attila,
you are saying thar this Zuiko is one of the weakest 1.2 lens?
I saw some for 300+ on ebay. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57852 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Lazzaros wrote: |
Attila,
you are saying thar this Zuiko is one of the weakest 1.2 lens?
I saw some for 300+ on ebay. |
YES.
I don't think so good idea to pay 300+ for a soft lens wide open. Even cheapest Cosina is better or same and you can get around 100 EUR.
Do you really need 1.2 ?
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/smc_pentax_m/55mm_f1_2/
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/nikon_nikkor/nikon_nikkor_50mm_f1_2/
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/filmcamera/Konica/konica_fc_1_hexanons/Konica_FC-1_Hexanon_57mm_f1_2_AE-sensia_200-0212.jpg.html _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Xpres wrote: |
Not sure on price - I've had mine for a while. But about £200 ish for a good on I'd think.
Heres one wide open
And one about f5.6 Note the highlights....
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Both samples are very nice. That second shot has some magic going on though. Nicely captured regardless of the lens.
Ivo, My opinion is if you want a 1.2 lens in this price range. Go for the Rokkor 1.2/58 (easy to adapt to Eos or buy an adapted one). I find it much smoother in OOF areas and sharper wide open.
The later Zuiko 1.2/50 is an improvement from the earlier 1.2/55 but still no rokkor. For a lesser price and still excellent performance search for the Nikkor sc 1.2/55. _________________ Moderator |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57852 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Ah yes, Nikkor S.C I did forget , nice lens too! _________________ -------------------------------
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Many thanks for your comments.
My friend asked me for 200€ but if you say that this one isn't as good as I thought I'll pass it...
I'll look for a better one later.. |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Pass.......
I bought my Nikkor SC for $250 and sold it for the same. It is not uncommon to find it for this price. A much sharper lens if sharpness is what you want.
f1.2 is rarely important. Buy a 1.2 lens for the signature it has rather than speed.
That is why I suggest the Rokkor. It is a very beautiful image maker. Of course I suppose Express shows us in his samples that the Zuiko can be also _________________ Moderator |
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Xpres
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
'Horses for courses' ! It depends how you're going to use it - for some the zuiko is ideal, hence the price, for others it's far from ideal.
If you want a zuiko, the 50/1.2 is much sharper wide open and as Attila says... so are most of the others.
I guess the best way is to try a few... _________________ Film... and sometimes SD14, 5D2 and some other suff! |
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
I dug some info,
f/1.2 lenses
Lenses tested ----------------------f/1.2 -----f/2.8 -----f/5.6 -----Average
Pentax SMC 50mm f/1.2 ---------101 -------77 ---------50 --------228
Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 --------116 -------73 ---------49 --------238
Canon FD 55mm f/1.2 -----------117 -------82 ---------45 --------244
Minolta MD Rokkor 50mm f/1.2 -117 -------75 ---------54 --------246
Canon FD 55mm AL f/1.2 --------117 -------84 ---------51 --------252
Yashica ML 55mm f/1.2 ----------124 -------90 ---------51 --------265
Olympus Zuiko 55mm f/1.2 -----125 -------90 ---------60 --------275
Nicon Noct-Nikkor 58mm f/1.2 ---158 ------107 ---------52 --------317
Leitz Noctilux 50mm f/1.0 --------152 -------97 ---------67 --------316
Konica Hexar 57mm f/1.2 --------166 ------129 ---------58 --------353
Smaller number is sharper (I do not know why?) _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
If you can find a MC Rokkor 58/1.2, recommended. It is fast and sharp, and
has certain character (hard to describe), though mount may be a problem. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
koji wrote: |
I dug some info,
f/1.2 lenses
Lenses tested ----------------------f/1.2 -----f/2.8 -----f/5.6 -----Average
Pentax SMC 50mm f/1.2 ---------101 -------77 ---------50 --------228
Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 --------116 -------73 ---------49 --------238
Canon FD 55mm f/1.2 -----------117 -------82 ---------45 --------244
Minolta MD Rokkor 50mm f/1.2 -117 -------75 ---------54 --------246
Canon FD 55mm AL f/1.2 --------117 -------84 ---------51 --------252
Yashica ML 55mm f/1.2 ----------124 -------90 ---------51 --------265
Olympus Zuiko 55mm f/1.2 -----125 -------90 ---------60 --------275
Nicon Noct-Nikkor 58mm f/1.2 ---158 ------107 ---------52 --------317
Leitz Noctilux 50mm f/1.0 --------152 -------97 ---------67 --------316
Konica Hexar 57mm f/1.2 --------166 ------129 ---------58 --------353
Smaller number is sharper (I do not know why?) |
What means those numbers, Koji?
If they are l or pl/mm, so the smaller is the less sharper.
I can't understand.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
koji wrote: |
I dug some info,
f/1.2 lenses
Lenses tested ----------------------f/1.2 -----f/2.8 -----f/5.6 -----Average
Pentax SMC 50mm f/1.2 ---------101 -------77 ---------50 --------228
Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 --------116 -------73 ---------49 --------238
Canon FD 55mm f/1.2 -----------117 -------82 ---------45 --------244
Minolta MD Rokkor 50mm f/1.2 -117 -------75 ---------54 --------246
Canon FD 55mm AL f/1.2 --------117 -------84 ---------51 --------252
Yashica ML 55mm f/1.2 ----------124 -------90 ---------51 --------265
Olympus Zuiko 55mm f/1.2 -----125 -------90 ---------60 --------275
Nicon Noct-Nikkor 58mm f/1.2 ---158 ------107 ---------52 --------317
Leitz Noctilux 50mm f/1.0 --------152 -------97 ---------67 --------316
Konica Hexar 57mm f/1.2 --------166 ------129 ---------58 --------353
Smaller number is sharper (I do not know why?) |
Nice chart my "laser precise" eyes said SMC Pentax sharpest (have to go to buy some lottery.. ) also I thought Nikkor right after....
Konica is better than last one I believe. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Rino, I have no idea what those numbers are.
But my humble experience generally agrees with this ranking, though
I did not use Pentax 50/1.2 nor Noctilux 50/1.0. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
koji wrote: |
But my humble experience generally agrees with this ranking, |
Hi Koji.
Now that is worth. Thanks
Rino _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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berraneck
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
How good is Zuiko 50/1.2 compared with these? It is even more expensive than 55/1.2 , but if is it also bad, it wouldn´t be good investment. I´m considering it as a portrait lens, not a reportage one for night shots. _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:04 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
berraneck wrote: |
How good is Zuiko 50/1.2 compared with these? It is even more expensive than 55/1.2 , but if is it also bad, it wouldn´t be good investment. I´m considering it as a portrait lens, not a reportage one for night shots. |
Are you sure you need an f1.2 lens as a portrait lens?
The DoF is veeeeeery short, so you easily misfocus.
And If you plan to use the lens at f2 most of the time, you could save some serious money by buying an f1.4 lens (e.g. Zukos 1.4/50, Nikkor 1.4/50 etc.) _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Things ON SALE
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Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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