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pappastratos
Joined: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 28
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:00 pm Post subject: do you pick up inexpensive lenses,,, |
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pappastratos wrote:
do you pick up inexpensive lenses hoping to find a good one ? I do, kinda like a challenge, plus its fun. I have picked up a couple & they were worthless. I did get a 200mm for $24.00 that is sharp as any expensive lens I own. I have had better luck with older Sears, Vivitar, & Lentar than later models. Maybe it is the "heavier the better" syndrome,,, _________________ Old school photographer, raised on a waist level finder, stuck in a digital world,, |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Yep, deffo in the case of old, long Japanese ones! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: do you pick up inexpensive lenses,,, |
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Excalibur wrote:
pappastratos wrote: |
do you pick up inexpensive lenses hoping to find a good one ? I do, kinda like a challenge, plus its fun. ,, |
Indeed, I'm bored owning so many VG cheap lenses that I'm looking for that special lens that has VG resolution, bokeh and more chance of "pop".....hey maybe I already own one and should get to know my lenses more instead of buying more _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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danfromm
Joined: 04 Sep 2011 Posts: 576
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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danfromm wrote:
Well, from time to time there's no way I can get a lens I want without paying the going price. It always stings a little. My 35/4.5 Apo Grandagon and a center filter for it stung a lot even though I got both a bit below market.
But back when I was chasing lenses that might be useful on my little 2x3 Graphics I mostly bought inexpensive lenses, turned up a number of wonder lenses for very little money. Times have changed, and in several ways. I'm more than fully equipped, so there aren't many lenses that tell me I need them. And, thanks to the diffusion of knowledge, the sorts of lenses I tend to accumulate have got somewhat expensive.
Re this last, some years ago I bought a 4"/2.0 TTH Anastigmat (2 1/4" x 2 1/4") from a guy in the UK. Delivered price was $30. A thrill, and downright cheap. I think two are now up on eBay. One's opening bid is UKP 998, the other's is $1,700. That's more than even a very nice normal lens for 2x3 is worth to me. I once bought a Uran-27 (100/2.5 Soviet lens for an aerial camera that shot 7x8 on 80 mm film) to see what it was. 1 Euro for the lens, 25 Euro for the post office. Not as thrilling or as cheap as my 4"/2.0 TTH, but definitely still a cheap thrill. Even those hard-to-use beasties sell for more nowadays.
I still look, see little that I have to have at the opening bid or BIN price. Just this morning I finally noticed a coated 2.375"/6.5 Dallmeyer wide angle. BIN $600. View wide open, shoot at least three stops down. Pretty little thing. Hard to justify when I have perfectly usable 58/5.6 Grandagon, a fine 60/5.6 Hexanon, a wonderful 60/14 Perigraphe, and a pretty good 65/8 Ilex. 370312421507, if anyone is interested.
When I see something that appeals -- I think the last was a Boyer Opale -- I'm almost always outbid. My last score worth mentioning was a completely unusable, except as a door stop, 200/2.0 S.F.O.M. that cost roughly $200 delivered. The price was worth finding out what it was.
I suspect that Klaus has similar tales to share about the good(?) old days.
I'm not ready to chase obscure lenses of the '60s - '80s for SLRs, or even first rate lenses for SLRs of that era, slightly envy those of you who are excited by them. |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Yes I also buy cheap and mysterious lenses at a venture.
The problem is that I don't have enough time to test all my lenses.
So usually I'm buying them, checking other people opinions on the web, and as long it's not better than my best similar lens I'm reselling them for much more than I paid 3 months later on Ebay _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57850 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I rather pick up Russian lenses they are cheap like most crappy Jap lens and all good _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
Dare I admit this? I almost have enough long lenses for my needs. Oh sure, a few more would be nice, and if some bargain speed demon appeared in front of my delaminating eyeballs, I'd grab it. But I don't do birds, wildlife, sports, the usual domains of extra reach. I have a hard time deciding what to do with my Lil'Bigma 170-500. My other 300-400-500 glass doesn't see enough use. Thus I am not in the hunt, not driven to buy more-more-more. Will I be excommunicated now?
But yes, I still look for cheap lenses. Yes, my preferences now are European rather than Asian, although I'm still looking for an ultralight (70g) Rikenon XR 28/3.5 Aspheric, which probably won't be cheap. Or any other lens in the 20-30mm range that weighs 110g or less and is small. But I still abide by one of my basic rules: If it costs less than a sandwich or burger, BUY IT! _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald
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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
I usually buy good lenses with good quality/price ratio ,in the 10 to 100 E limit . I am going over very seldom .
One of the causes of buiyng MF Lenses is that they are cheap. Not the only one . And of course ,not all the MF lenses are cheap And with the money spent on MFLenses this year I could buy a good AF zoom , shurely _________________ Cheers , Teo
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William
Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 489 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:22 am Post subject: |
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William wrote:
I used to buy very cheap lenses that interested me when I saw them. About 2 years ago eBay was full of cheap Russians, Pentacons, 3rd party Japanese lenses etc for £5-10 or even less but now that seems very rare. Charity shops now seem to look up the lens on eBay and sell it for the highest BIN price even though they are often not checked out.
Now the focus is on building a Pentax M series and buying modern lenses. |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:22 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I have started by buying loads of cheap lenses (Russian M42, noname Asian...) in order to try them and keep the ones I like.
After a while I started to buy more expensive ones (Zuiko, Nikkor...) and then really expensive ones (mainly Leica).
And I have to admit, in most cases there is a difference if you put all things together: performance, built, haptics...
But at the end of the day the best value is offered by those lenses that are reasonably expensive. Nikkor or Zuiko lenses are about as good as the really expensive Zeiss or Leica lenses but several times cheaper - and definitely better than the cheapo lenses! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:55 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I'm done with cheapo lenses, bought way too many. How many of them have I kept and still use? Eww, very very few, Hoya HMC 2.8/28 springs to mind and a Petri CC Auto 1.8/55 I got for 99p and is a stunner, but have to admit most of what I had were either stinkers or mediocre and I just don't see the point in shooting with mediocre glass when you can find excellent glass for peanuts if you have patience and do your research. Attila's suggestion of buying cheap Russian lenses is a great one, I have several and they are all superb. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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GrahamNR17
Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1855 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
I don't buy cheap lenses just to see of they are any good. There's so many people here that do it, I just wait until they report a good one, then go find a copy |
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AhamB
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 733 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
I never did this. I'm not a collector and don't want to be stuck with a cupboard full of lenses I don't use, or the hassle of reselling lenses that aren't worth anything. My cheapest lenses were the Oly 28/3.5 (sold) and Super-Takumar 55/2, both of which are well known. |
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:03 am Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
Don't confuse 'cheap' with 'bargain'. Some of my favorite lenses cost very very little. My super-bargain list (prices in USD, shipped):
Tamron BBAR 28/2.5, $4
Meyer Helioplan 40/4.5, $12
Yashica ML 50/1.4, $10
CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 (Exakta), $7
Sears-Tomioka 55/1.4, $2.25
Argus-Chinon 55/1.7, $3
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, $7
Nikkor 85/2, $9
Vivitar-Komine 90/2.8 macro, $3
Pentax F35-70/3.5-4.5, $11
Sears-Tokina 55-135/3.5, $8
And some 'cheap' lenses are surprisingly good. My list would be tedious. I'll just say that I'm very happy with various glass labeled Lentar, Paragon, Toyo, Focal, Opticam, even Hanimex and Albinar.
As for reselling: I *do* sell off everything I don't intend to use. My lens profit margin is 100%, after eBay fees. I'm currently at 230 lenses kept, 120 lenses sold. And I'm now at 45 cameras kept, 30 cameras sold, 90% profit margin. The sales sure help pay for the keepers, eh? _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:45 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I bought a 50/1.4 S-M-C Tak for 5GBP with original caps. Not sure that price paid has much to do with it, but that was certainly inexpensive. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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pappastratos
Joined: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 28
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:35 am Post subject: |
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pappastratos wrote:
I do a little research, but for $10-20 I have bought a couple that were really sharp. But I have bought one that fell apart in 2 pieces,,, _________________ Old school photographer, raised on a waist level finder, stuck in a digital world,, |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:56 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Yes, I still do, but not as often. I still look for inexpensive lenses from the 1950's-1960's. Mostly I'm expanding my Minolta collection. All lenses in my signature were USD $14 or less each + shipping. Most were under $7 USD. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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mfkita
Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 222
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:08 am Post subject: cheap thrills |
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mfkita wrote:
I use Nikkors just because they were in my bag 40 years ago when I was a news photographer....and they got used to me....
When I went digital I sold most of them and then had to get them back, and except for my Nikkor 180/2.8 ED that I got for $140, (a lucky ebay bid), all my Nikkors cost no more than $75, and most were nearly free...after selling off the gear that came with them...and many of those lenses were sold (at a tidy profit) when I found their replacement
One such lens find is my AI'd 85mm F1.8K...it's a story of sell, buy, buy, sell, buy (keep) and sell again....
...it came to me after I sold my 85/F2 AIS (bought back in the 1980s), and bought 85/1.8H beater for a lot less....I needed the money and the 1.8 is every bit as good as the F2 (some say better)....
I then found (I say "find" but I don't really look for them), a better 85/1.8H, so sold the beater 1.8...for nearly the cost of its replacement
...A year later I found the 85/1.8K along with 2 other lenses and a Nikon body...the owner wouldn't sell the 85 by itself, sooooo.....I took the chance and bought the whole kit....
...I kept the 85/1.8K, and sold all the other gear along with that 2nd 85-H for what I paid for all that gear so the 85/1.8K cost me nothing....
(actually for less than nothing, a profit actually, since I sold all the other 85s for a profit...but the profit isn't as interesting as all the finding, buying and selling it took to finally get a hold of the "keeper"...)
From pawn shops and Craigslist I've found a lot of cheap gear...including five 50mm/1.4 Nikkors that cost me nothing after selling the bodies they were on....I kept the last 50/1.4, an AIS version...the others were eventually sold for $40-$75, good deals for those buyers, all profit for me...
I have two 135/2.8 Nikkors, one Q.C that was AI'd...and a non-AI compact "K" version....each cost $40...lucky ebay bids
I had a 105/2.5 P that cost $10 after selling the gear that came with it, and eventually sold it for $60 when I got the AIS 105/2.5....for $65...
...and got a 200/4AIS Nikkor for $75, but it came with a good looking and good working FE2/MD12....all for $75...
And though I've sold a lot of gear for profit, I've often given away lenses and other gear when I come across a grabbagbox of gear that I had to buy for that 1 piece of glass I wanted...
I gave away a 300/4.5 Nikkor, a bunch of Canon lenses, that I had found in one such $100 box, keeping for myself the 180/2.8 Nikkor and 50/2K Nikkor I found at the bottom (finding such a deal, I just HAD to give some of it away, for good Karma)....
...back to OP's interesting question....I do occasionally keep odd and non-nikon gear...a $3 Kiron 28/F2 that's stuck at F2, and a 7mm Spiratone fisheye I got for $12...both in Nikon mounts that were the kind of finds I like...cheap thrills....but I tend to sell all the $5 and $10 lenses and bodies...I'm trying NOT to be a hoarder....and that's hard to do.... _________________ I favor the simple shot...and uncomplicated technology that won't distract me from seeing it...
NIKON D610, Canon 30D/450D/s90/A570is: Canon 35/2, 50/1.8 MKI, 18-55IS, 28-105/3.5-4.5, 70-210/3.5-4.5; MF Nikkors 50/2K, 50/1.4AIS, 60/2.8 Micro, 85/1.8-K (AI'd), 135/2.8K, 135/2.8Q.C, 180/2.8ED, 200/4Q (AI-cut), 200/4AIS, 300/4.5-H (AI'd), Olympus 24/2.8, Vivitar 28/2, Vivitar S1 70-210/3.5 and S1 28-90;Tamron sp90/2.5; (and 28-85 AF nikkor), 35mm Nikon F, FM, FE2/MD12 drive |
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pappastratos
Joined: 12 Dec 2011 Posts: 28
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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pappastratos wrote:
I am trying to get all M42 mounted lenses, why, I do not know. I do use M42-Canon EOS adapters. I guess I am wanting to get a couple of M42 film bodies to play around with. I have another 400mm I got for dirt that should show up any day. Hope it is M42, seller said end cap screwed on. Some sellers are clueless. _________________ Old school photographer, raised on a waist level finder, stuck in a digital world,, |
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Lord Minty
Joined: 22 Oct 2010 Posts: 24 Location: Bedford, UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Lord Minty wrote:
Here in the UK cheap lenses seem to have disappeared. 10 or so years ago you could pick up M42 lenses for single GBPs and I got my boxed CZJ Sonnar 135mm f3.5 for £2... Now the cheapest for a known lens is around £15+, but my wife did pick up a lens for me recently for £5 - a Photax-Paragon 35 mm f2.8.
I was pretty impressed to get this when I tested it out:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lordminty/6292156161/ |
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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Smoli4 wrote:
just to participate, I buy all my lenses in either my city's flea market or in second hand shops, but i got a few from people who had those old lenses in their home, and after hearing i am interested in them they passed them over to me as gifts (i got reall good lenses that way [well real good as in my state right now, like a good J-9 and a few others.])
but back to the subject because i only buy lenses in the market\ second hand shops, i cant resist buying a 4-10 euros lens, even if i dont anything about it. when i see a lens i only see its specs (28mm f2. if its a known maker i could pay more than 10\20 euros but if i knows its a middle'ish lens i will still grab it just to test it, because i know the next time ill be there it will be long gone... |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Just cant resist cheap lenses, esp cheap lens lot... _________________ La migliore cura di LBA � imparare una nuova lingua. Le meilleur rem�de de LBA est d'apprendre une nouvelle langue. La mejor cura del LBA es aprender una nueva lengua. |
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jjphoto
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 406
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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jjphoto wrote:
I'm certainly interested in trying inexpensive lenses but I'm sick of throwing my money away on items with fungus or that simply don't function as they should.
I'm sick of the bullshit so common from private and 'Ma and Pa' sellers (selling whatever junk they get their hands on) who are incapable of giving even vaguely accurate desriptions or answering specific questions. I've received many, many items which are simpy faulty or significantly damaged by fungus. When the shipping cost is usually a big proportion of the cost of the item (as is the case with most overseas purchases) the option to return an item is irrelevant. Shipping can be a killer and buying within your own country is probably the way to go, especially if you are in the U.S. of A. with about 300,000,000 people, probably all selling their junk on Fleabay or similar on-line markets.
I think the best way to purchase 'cheap' is from garage sales, camera markets, pawn shops or even reputable traders (Fleabay or 'brick's and mortar'), but when buying 'cheap' and sight unseen then you are often gambling on the condition of the item. Maybe that's part of the fun for some people, some you win, some you loose.
JJ
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I have a weakness for cheap lenses, but not the crap third party ones you see so many of. I just picked up three Mamiya-Sekor E lenses for a total of 14ukp, in superb condition. Easy to modify an adapter to try them on my NEX. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7771 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
They seem to be calling to me as I pass by - "buy me, buy me" and invariably I take pity on them.
But I've got some decent stuff for next to nothing, and a bit of junk. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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