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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:33 am Post subject: Topcon RE Topcor 5.6/200 on NEX-3 |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Hi folks
This is a beautiful lens, all silver and with fantastic build quality, also quite light and great to handle. Sharp like a laser with great contrast. Was one of the most expensive lenses I've bought, around 50ukp, but I feel it was well worth it. These were all at either f5.6 or f8:
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
You had magnificent light today, beautiful series! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:43 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Oh yes, today was a very rare day, unusual to have such great light in middle of winter. Atmosphere clear and free of haze as it is in winter so ideal time to try out shooting with long lens.
I think I'm going to have to acquire more of these RE Topcors as I see them at good prices, sadly they are not cheap, especially the sorter ones. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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ManualFocus-G
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:45 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Woah the colours are awesome! Particularly no.3 for some reason _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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blaahhi
Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 20 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:14 am Post subject: |
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blaahhi wrote:
Nice pictures!
The 200mm f/5.6 is quite portable and light for a 200mm, but also slow... It is ok, but not really a star performer in the generally excellent RE Topcor line.
Personally for the RE Topcors, I'd recommend the 100mm f/2.8, the 58mm f/1.4, the RE GN 50mm f/1.4, the 35mm f/2.8, and the small but nice 28mm f/2.8. Also all the macro lenses are good. (I do not even mention the rare and expensive 85mm f/1.8 and 300mm f/2.8 lenses...)
Unfortunately, due to collectability of the whole line, the prices are really high. But with persistence, there's still good deals to be made!
(some of my Topcors)
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Yes, I noticed the colours too, rather different from others and I like them. I missed focus on #1, I intended to focus on the canoes but managed to focus on the trees further away, but it didn't spoil the shot. The other thing that impressed me was the separation of objects, on the full-size version of #8, that bit of land sticking into the lake does pop out from the background.
Also, the one of the bench with the nameplate shows to me, impressive sharpness, it is wide open and I just wanted to see how it resolved the lettering, I wasn't expecting it to resolve the fine scratches in the plate, certainly other 200s I have tried like the Tokina 3.5/200 I tried last week wouldn't have resolved those scratches wide open and probably not at f8-11 either.
Thanks for the info Sami, I'm quite envious of your Topcor collection! I agree, the 5.6/200 is very portable, I could use it handheld with patience although I had it on a tripod for all these samples.
I was lucky to find this lens at a decent price and I got a 3.5/135 Topcor for 24ukp, be a while before I collect anymore as they aren't very common and sadly fetch pretty high prices, but when I do see any at a good price, I'll snap em up for sure. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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jito
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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jito wrote:
Beautiful series as usual. #1 has a very interesting color scheme. But my favorite is #8. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I shot some more with this lens today, all at f5.6 and I think it produces stunning results, critically sharp with great colours and contrast, some CA but not bad at all. Best of all, it has a good deal of 3D pop, what you focus on tends to pop out of the image.
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Hey this is not cheap Jap Crap excellent sharp images _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I forget how much I paid now, 56ukp I think, but to me, worth every penny, it's very light so handles very well with the NEX and the deep sliding hood is very useful, build quality is fantastic.
I tried some shots at f11 and it gets slightly sharper and the CA is reduced:
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FluffPuppy
Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 365
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
Topcon made some nice lenses, to be sure. |
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GrahamNR17
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Damn, I love your landscapes and townscapes |
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martyn_bannister
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Nice series(s) Ian and WOW, sharp or what? |
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FluffPuppy
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
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Nice series(s) Ian and WOW, sharp or what? |
Slow lenses do not pose the design problems that fast ones too. Most 200mm lenses are F/4 or so. It's in the faster designs that you will see more progress over the last 50 years. |
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
FluffPuppy wrote: |
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Nice series(s) Ian and WOW, sharp or what? |
Slow lenses do not pose the design problems that fast ones too. Most 200mm lenses are F/4 or so. It's in the faster designs that you will see more progress over the last 50 years. |
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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arhi_tectu1
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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arhi_tectu1 wrote:
nice photos _________________ MF- CZJ 180/2.8@CZJ 50/2.8@Contax CZ 50/1.4@Contax CZ 135/2.8@Nikkor P 180/2.8@Helios 44@Mir 37/2.8@Industar 50/3.5@Pentacon 28/2.8@Pentacon 300/4
AF- Canon 70-200/4L@Canon 60/2.8Macro@Tokina 11-16/2.8
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FluffPuppy
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
Attila wrote: |
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martyn_bannister wrote: |
Nice series(s) Ian and WOW, sharp or what? |
Slow lenses do not pose the design problems that fast ones too. Most 200mm lenses are F/4 or so. It's in the faster designs that you will see more progress over the last 50 years. |
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And the spectacularly performing Zeiss Contarex lenses from the 60s, one must remember, are slow too:
135mm f/4
35mm f/4
50mm f/2.8
etc.
Example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carl-Zeiss-Contarex-135mm-f-4-Sonnar-black-lens-LQQK-/110808330526?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item19ccb0f11e |
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Lloydy
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
You're getting the images you desired Ian, now you've sorted your lenses into the good, the bad and the ugly!
That's definitely a good lens. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Yes, I have managed to sort them into three categories now - top ones I'm keeping, average ones I'm selling and crap ones I'm going to torture to death!
This Topcon is one I'm keeping for sure, it's a lot smaller and lighter than my Konica Hexanon 3.5/200 and is sharper and has a different rendering to my other keeper 200 - Pentacon 4/200.
So I have a Panagor 3.5/200 (Kiron) and a Hoya (Tokina) 3.5/200 to sell, I already disposed of some other cheap crappy 200s.
I still have a hankering to try out a 2.8/180 Sonnar though... _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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FluffPuppy
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Yes, I have managed to sort them into three categories now - top ones I'm keeping, average ones I'm selling and crap ones I'm going to torture to death!
This Topcon is one I'm keeping for sure, it's a lot smaller and lighter than my Konica Hexanon 3.5/200 and is sharper and has a different rendering to my other keeper 200 - Pentacon 4/200.
So I have a Panagor 3.5/200 (Kiron) and a Hoya (Tokina) 3.5/200 to sell, I already disposed of some other cheap crappy 200s.
I still have a hankering to try out a 2.8/180 Sonnar though... |
The one lens you might like because of its compactness and quality is the 180mm Elmar-R (f/4). It's a stop faster than this one, and very small.
You can find them very reasonably:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_PrefLoc=2&_nkw=180*+elmar-r&_trkparms=65%253A10%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&rt=nc&_dmpt=Camera_Lenses&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=15&_sc=1
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FluffPuppy
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
Why doesn't my post show up? |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
It had issue with url what did you post, I try to figure out what is that.
URL brackets didn't eat this silly Ebay URL and without that also not works. _________________ -------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I'll consider that Elmar. I rarely shoot 200mm, or even 135mm for that matter, but I'm starting to want to use longer lenses more often for my landscape work, so really what I'm after is the best performance at infinity, this Topcor does that well so I'll definitely be using it for a while, although I remain open to the possibility of finding something better. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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FluffPuppy
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I'll consider that Elmar. I rarely shoot 200mm, or even 135mm for that matter, but I'm starting to want to use longer lenses more often for my landscape work, so really what I'm after is the best performance at infinity, this Topcor does that well so I'll definitely be using it for a while, although I remain open to the possibility of finding something better. |
Well 180mm is a nice length for a variety of purposes. Though this Topcon seems a splendid performer, f/5.6 is a bit limiting (though less so with today's high-sensitivity digital sensors). The 180 Elmar can be had under $400 if you check around, and represents a real bargain. I owned one and loved it. Very compact and light. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I tried the Topcor 200mm again today, light was not great and it was pretty misty but results were not bad, have to try it again in good light.
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