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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
taunusreiter wrote: |
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
It isn't a fake, I'm sure about that, otherwise why would there be a few of them in circulation? |
Caus they were made from parts available at Carl Zeiss Jena plant after WWII destruction |
Maybe. However, some of these 60mm's have been taken apart and show a coating of Swiss post-war origin, which would be hard to explain on a lens from the semi-legal Jena cottage industries. Other explanations might be a (aborted) attempt by some Swiss maker at copying the Sonnar after the patents were public domained, or lens parts from a breach of Swiss neutrality reused after the war (many Swiss companies had German ties). _________________ Sevo |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Whatever the case, this sure is an interesting lens and it would be great to find out it's true history, let's hope Attila can find out. Would also be great if some sample pics could be made with it. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
While searching for some Helioplan lenses in my collection for another thread, I found another fake Sonnar in my collection.
Here is a side by side comparision of my two Sonnar 1:1,5 6cm. Both behave like 1:2,8 f= ~8cm
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 1:1,5 6cm Nr 2914080
Carl Zeiss Jena Nr.2914099 Sonnar 1:1,5 f=6cm
Klaus
PS: Anyone believing that this hodgepodge was Zeiss-made? _________________ my Ebay auctions
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www.classic-cameras-and-lenses.de |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Thank you Klaus, certainly they are not looks like made by Zeiss.
Today I got lens from Diwa MANY THANKS!, to try it out and sell it on behalf to him if possible. I did try it out already, I will publish result later and my opinion about it's origin. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Smoli4 wrote:
Nice im glad you got it so fast
and.. my name is Dima its short for Dmitry |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Smoli4 wrote: |
Nice im glad you got it so fast
and.. my name is Dima its short for Dmitry |
sorry. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Smoli4 wrote:
common its nothing |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Looks fake to me sadly enough (as well as teh one in kevincamera site), there is no ZEISS mentioned and teh serial number is non exiting in THIELE's books. Military numbering usually is very different from that, but a 6 digit number would be way to low for a coated lens if made by Zeiss (Jena or West) |
Lens is on my desk already, it is not marked as Zeiss , just Sonnar engraved on. Lens is high quality lens I did try it out today, uncoated or single coated. Barel looks different from any Russian what I know and bigger too. Precisely made ... all what I know from lens only this now. I am only sure it is not made as fake Carl Zeiss lens, due no Zeiss engraving on it. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
http://forum.mflenses.com/sonnar-6cm-f1-5-t46018.html
Sample images in Gallery , all are processed on my usual way. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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