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French-Lenses
Joined: 08 Jan 2018 Posts: 24 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:39 am Post subject: My collection |
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French-Lenses wrote:
Hi every !
I'm happy to show you some lenses of my collection. For my first, i've choose the Angenieux Type Y1 90mm f/2.5 here on a Leica IIIC. Very good lens, tested on Nikon D810 :
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16499 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Welcome here! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Sjak
Joined: 29 Sep 2017 Posts: 696
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Sjak wrote:
Welcome!
That is one sweet lens |
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French-Lenses
Joined: 08 Jan 2018 Posts: 24 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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French-Lenses wrote:
Thank you !!! An other sweet candy : Som Berthiot / Sopelem 25mm f/0.95 C mount
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y
Joined: 11 Aug 2013 Posts: 304 Location: EU
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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y wrote:
French-Lenses wrote: |
Thank you !!! An other sweet candy : Som Berthiot / Sopelem 25mm f/0.95 C mount |
Nice. I'm looking forward to see its triangle bokeh |
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Sjak
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Sjak wrote:
y wrote: |
Nice. I'm looking forward to see its triangle bokeh |
Yes, me too |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I find it very strange for a Taylor & Hobson Monital to be made in France rather than Leicester, England. Either TT&H contracted out the production or that little plate on the side is lying. Maybe Sopelem was also a part of the giant Rank Corporation that bought out TT&H in the 1960s? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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French-Lenses
Joined: 08 Jan 2018 Posts: 24 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:44 am Post subject: |
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French-Lenses wrote:
y wrote: |
French-Lenses wrote: |
Thank you !!! An other sweet candy : Som Berthiot / Sopelem 25mm f/0.95 C mount |
Nice. I'm looking forward to see its triangle bokeh |
I will try to test it soon ^^ _________________ French lenses, what else ?
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French-Lenses
Joined: 08 Jan 2018 Posts: 24 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:54 am Post subject: |
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French-Lenses wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I find it very strange for a Taylor & Hobson Monital to be made in France rather than Leicester, England. Either TT&H contracted out the production or that little plate on the side is lying. Maybe Sopelem was also a part of the giant Rank Corporation that bought out TT&H in the 1960s? |
This lens was made in france by Sopelem for RTH. In 1964, famous Som Berthiot company became Sopelem and has continued to produce optics also for others companies (RTH, Foca ...).
I have others Som Berthiot / Sopelem made for RTH _________________ French lenses, what else ?
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:54 am Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I find it very strange for a Taylor & Hobson Monital to be made in France rather than Leicester, England. Either TT&H contracted out the production or that little plate on the side is lying. Maybe Sopelem was also a part of the giant Rank Corporation that bought out TT&H in the 1960s? |
I know nothing of the "French Connection" but the Rank Organisation was certainly scaling down lens production by the mid-1960s. By 1966 the Ental enlarging lenses were being assembled at the Rank-Kershaw factory in Leeds from stocks of components previously shipped up from Leicester. I worked for a photo-retailer in Leeds at the time and remember the lenses being delivered by the man who actually put them together !
Taylor Hobson is one of the very, very few British lens manufacturers for which an archive of factory records survives. Sadly, the majority of them are now outside the UK, held privately and not easily (if at all) accessible by researchers. Still, the present owners of the successor company, Cooke Optics (https://www.cookeoptics.com/) value its heritage and I hope that one day its US "parents" will publish a history of TTH.
My apologies to French-Lenses for jumping into his thread like this. _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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French-Lenses
Joined: 08 Jan 2018 Posts: 24 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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French-Lenses wrote:
scsambrook wrote: |
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I find it very strange for a Taylor & Hobson Monital to be made in France rather than Leicester, England. Either TT&H contracted out the production or that little plate on the side is lying. Maybe Sopelem was also a part of the giant Rank Corporation that bought out TT&H in the 1960s? |
I know nothing of the "French Connection" but the Rank Organisation was certainly scaling down lens production by the mid-1960s. By 1966 the Ental enlarging lenses were being assembled at the Rank-Kershaw factory in Leeds from stocks of components previously shipped up from Leicester. I worked for a photo-retailer in Leeds at the time and remember the lenses being delivered by the man who actually put them together !
Taylor Hobson is one of the very, very few British lens manufacturers for which an archive of factory records survives. Sadly, the majority of them are now outside the UK, held privately and not easily (if at all) accessible by researchers. Still, the present owners of the successor company, Cooke Optics (https://www.cookeoptics.com/) value its heritage and I hope that one day its US "parents" will publish a history of TTH.
My apologies to French-Lenses for jumping into his thread like this. |
Thank you this is very interesting ! The only things i know on RTH is that Som Berthiot has made some lenses rebadged RTH Monital.
I have others RTH lenses, used for television 35mm cameras. These are "Varotal" 21-210mm made in UK. _________________ French lenses, what else ?
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 1998 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome! _________________ Pierre
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 561 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:47 pm Post subject: SOM Berthiot to Exalitos |
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paulhofseth wrote:
The story of how SOM Berthiot (remember Bolex zooms) merges with OPL (of Opla fame) to become SOPELEM then SFIM and SAGEM plus with SNECMA morphed into SAFRAN requires an in depthe study of French millitary procurement and how Thompson\Thales lost out in the first round. This is not made less transparent by Rank Xerox which swallowed TTH 70years ago, agreeing to share manufacturing secrets and markets with SOPELEM and Cooke eventually gaining feedom.
The alphabet soup had Vickers , Dassault, General Electric , British Aerospace, Aerospatiale and DASA as seasoning adding CASA to become EADS. Optical products and other specialties had a more secure market with the millitary; infrared tank sights, hydaulics for airplanes, guidance systems for missiles.
Somewhere along the way United Scientific Holdings bought bits and pieces while digesting venerable morsels like Alvis. They regurgitated the optics bit, Avimo in Singapore which was bought by Qi optics, the owner of Linos etc.(which in turn owns Rodenstock). At the moment Qi seems to be owned by Exalitos, American investors.
No idea who at the moment owns the right to use the TTH label.
This is even more convoluted than the Leitz-Wild-AO-Hexagon-Blackstone saga with their microscopes, measuring equipment and optics going in many different directions with various owners.
My conclusion is that the French at one point had legal rights to use TTH (Cooke) designs and trade marks and that it was advantageous for whoever owned the various companies that this was so. The trade marks involved had an unblemished reputation to defend, so one must assume that the quality was first class.
Reading what is written on the French websites of OPL etc. on the loss of expertise, I am not so sure whether this major shuffling of shares was advantageous for the economy of the French nation in the longer term, or whether the outsourcing of British expertise was such a good idea. Labels is a marketing ploy, patents and know-how is important, people and skills are what really counts.
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2913 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:15 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
I have one Angenieux lens.... its on a Carena double 8 camera. I can't figure out how to get it off of the camera. I don't want to ruin the camera though I don't think you can get film for it anymore it seems to function, and I dislike shredding functional cameras for a lens. I also have several Demaria LaPierre lenses attached to some Telka folders. I really like the 90mm Sagittar on the Telka III. I (someday) will figure out how to convert 120 film negatives to digital so I can share some shots. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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French-Lenses
Joined: 08 Jan 2018 Posts: 24 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:42 am Post subject: Re: SOM Berthiot to Exalitos |
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French-Lenses wrote:
paulhofseth wrote: |
The story of how SOM Berthiot (remember Bolex zooms) merges with OPL (of Opla fame) to become SOPELEM then SFIM and SAGEM plus with SNECMA morphed into SAFRAN requires an in depthe study of French millitary procurement and how Thompson\Thales lost out in the first round. This is not made less transparent by Rank Xerox which swallowed TTH 70years ago, agreeing to share manufacturing secrets and markets with SOPELEM and Cooke eventually gaining feedom.
The alphabet soup had Vickers , Dassault, General Electric , British Aerospace, Aerospatiale and DASA as seasoning adding CASA to become EADS. Optical products and other specialties had a more secure market with the millitary; infrared tank sights, hydaulics for airplanes, guidance systems for missiles.
Somewhere along the way United Scientific Holdings bought bits and pieces while digesting venerable morsels like Alvis. They regurgitated the optics bit, Avimo in Singapore which was bought by Qi optics, the owner of Linos etc.(which in turn owns Rodenstock). At the moment Qi seems to be owned by Exalitos, American investors.
No idea who at the moment owns the right to use the TTH label.
This is even more convoluted than the Leitz-Wild-AO-Hexagon-Blackstone saga with their microscopes, measuring equipment and optics going in many different directions with various owners.
My conclusion is that the French at one point had legal rights to use TTH (Cooke) designs and trade marks and that it was advantageous for whoever owned the various companies that this was so. The trade marks involved had an unblemished reputation to defend, so one must assume that the quality was first class.
Reading what is written on the French websites of OPL etc. on the loss of expertise, I am not so sure whether this major shuffling of shares was advantageous for the economy of the French nation in the longer term, or whether the outsourcing of British expertise was such a good idea. Labels is a marketing ploy, patents and know-how is important, people and skills are what really counts.
p. |
Just wow !!! Thank you for all these informations. _________________ French lenses, what else ?
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16499 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:14 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
I just looked at your site Charline, very impressive!!
And if I may say that: even more impressed to see
a female collecting and selling such rare lenses!!
Would you be willing to tell us a bit how you started
to collect such rarities? _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4710 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Nice with new faces around and more bloggers 😉
You have quite a few interesting pieces there! Looking forward to see more from you.
Cheers
Lars _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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French-Lenses
Joined: 08 Jan 2018 Posts: 24 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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French-Lenses wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
I just looked at your site Charline, very impressive!!
And if I may say that: even more impressed to see
a female collecting and selling such rare lenses!!
Would you be willing to tell us a bit how you started
to collect such rarities? |
Thanks ! Me and my boyfriend we are photographers and we love to use old lenses. So we begin to collect some rarites since one year.
Today we have used some lenses that i've never hoped to get a day. _________________ French lenses, what else ?
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French-Lenses
Joined: 08 Jan 2018 Posts: 24 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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French-Lenses wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Nice with new faces around and more bloggers 😉
You have quite a few interesting pieces there! Looking forward to see more from you.
Cheers
Lars |
Thank you, we are happy to find others collectors ! _________________ French lenses, what else ?
https://french-lenses.com/ |
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French-Lenses
Joined: 08 Jan 2018 Posts: 24 Location: France
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French-Lenses wrote:
Today, we share to you this Swiss made lens : Kern Macro Switar AR 50mm f/1.8 found on an Alpa mod.9.
Very good lens, tested on Nikon D810 but i've lost photos ... _________________ French lenses, what else ?
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Very Interesting. I have or have owned C-mount and D-mount Kern lenses, but this is the first I've ever seen of 35mm format Kern lenses. Wow, I'll bet that's a very nice lens. Is it a true macro? Meaning does it get down at least to 1:2? _________________ Michael
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French-Lenses
Joined: 08 Jan 2018 Posts: 24 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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French-Lenses wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
Very Interesting. I have or have owned C-mount and D-mount Kern lenses, but this is the first I've ever seen of 35mm format Kern lenses. Wow, I'll bet that's a very nice lens. Is it a true macro? Meaning does it get down at least to 1:2? |
Kern has made many lenses for Alpa reflex. I know three versions oh this 50mm lens : oldest kern switar AR 50/1.8, Kern macro Switar AR 50/1.8 and lastest Kern macro Switar AR 50/1.9. Minimal focus is at 28cm.
I have also some Kern lenses in c mount, i will share this. _________________ French lenses, what else ?
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paulhofseth
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:06 pm Post subject: two Switars more in Alpa mount |
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paulhofseth wrote:
Before the non-macro, auto aperture Switar there was the thin, manually set aperture version. The few very last ones were not in Alpa mounts, but were fitted in Japanese 42mm-thread macro mounts delivered from Pignons with 42 to Alpa adapters.
Theoretically only 2 optical cell designs, 1,8 and 1,9, but different mounts, so a complete collection would have 5, but of course over the years, other glass types and coatings could have become available.
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French-Lenses
Joined: 08 Jan 2018 Posts: 24 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: two Switars more in Alpa mount |
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French-Lenses wrote:
paulhofseth wrote: |
Before the non-macro, auto aperture Switar there was the thin, manually set aperture version. The few very last ones were not in Alpa mounts, but were fitted in Japanese 42mm-thread macro mounts delivered from Pignons with 42 to Alpa adapters.
Theoretically only 2 optical cell designs, 1,8 and 1,9, but different mounts, so a complete collection would have 5, but of course over the years, other glass types and coatings could have become available.
p. |
Thank you for these informations ! _________________ French lenses, what else ?
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
Welcome! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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