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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:42 am Post subject: Konica Hexanon 4/21mm on NEX-3 |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Not been any decent weather for photography for a while here but at least the rain stopped so I did my best.
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nice series overall ! Some of them trully excellent!
Next time please resize pictures before upload to 1024 px or 1600px , useless to put bigger size , just eat space on server. _________________ -------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:33 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Whoops, I will remember to resize next time!
I like this lens but I feel I can do better, the rain got in the way of making a lot of the shots I wanted to. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I look forward them! These images especially vertical one, looks nicer if we can see them on screen without scrolling _________________ -------------------------------
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56 DIN
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 1656 Location: Germany Erbach /ODW
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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56 DIN wrote:
mystical pictures -
the plastic waste bags and (only if you are picky) the steel roof don´t fully fit to the charater of the images, as they put you back in time before these existed _________________ Thomas
NEX & manual lenses
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
ian these are really fine shots. the ladder, the framed mossy tree and a couple of b&w's are just brilliant. this is all of a sudden a very valuable lens. btw, when the sun comes out i think you will get best results using a hood. this and the 24mm really benefit from a hood on a bright day. _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers guys, I enjoyed using this lens, very well built, super smooth focus, very easy to focus, I shot all these at f8 and dof seems very deep at that aperture.
My friend actually said 'why don't you move those plastic bags' but I didn't as I didn't have any gloves with me and they were filthy, wish I had followed his suggestion now.
The steel roof is a mystery, no idea why a house that has been derelict for a long time has a modern roof on it. The barn next to it also has a steel roof, most strange.
I planned to go back today to shoot the exterior but sadly it rained all day again.
I also need to buy petal hoods to fit my 21mm and 24mm Hexanons, they came with original cases but no hoods, I think Konica must have sold them as an optional extra as none of my Hexanons came with hoods even though they almost all came with original leather cases. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
The original Hexanon hood for the 24mm is a rectangular one , it fits on the lens with a screw. I don't know about the 21 _________________ Cheers , Teo
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
The lens is looking well.
These to me show too much exposure compensation in PP.
Take it easy on the Shadow/Highlight filter and/or Dodge burn compensations.
They leave a lot of artifacts and make colors look very strange if overdone.
It's better to have shadows where there is no light
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10469 Location: Greece
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
nice series!
sunshine wrote: |
These to me show too much exposure compensation in PP |
it is the hdr algorithm who work like that
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I have seen the original Konica hood for sale, it would have cost me more than the 24 or 28mm lenses cost me so I passed.
Poilu is correct, it is the HDR, I have to use HDR to get good results when the weather and light are so bad, it really was dark and horrible. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I know it's HDR Was just trying to be subtle
I would say go easy on the sliders. What you are ending up with is a photo that looks like it could have been done by a iPhone or P&S.
Why go to the trouble of using a fabulous lens like the Hex 4/21 on an adapter and expensive camera if you will create final output that in reality mimics a pocket phone.
I'm not an HDR Nazi I promise you (it works nicely when it works nicely).
Using HDR Correctly though is an art in itself.
I live in the Pacific NW or the US. It's often dark and rainy here. The best way to deal with it is longer exposure on a tripod rather than SW algorithms.
Or let shade be shade and compose with the shadows in mind.
There is my critique . Hope you find it useful in some way.
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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
I know it's HDR Was just trying to be subtle
I would say go easy on the sliders. What you are ending up with is a photo that looks like it could have been done by a iPhone or P&S.
Why go to the trouble of using a fabulous lens like the Hex 4/21 on an adapter and expensive camera if you will create final output that in reality mimics a pocket phone.
I'm not an HDR Nazi I promise you (it works nicely when it works nicely).
Using HDR Correctly though is an art in itself.
I live in the Pacific NW or the US. It's often dark and rainy here. The best way to deal with it is longer exposure on a tripod rather than SW algorithms.
Or let shade be shade and compose with the shadows in mind.
There is my critique . Hope you find it useful in some way.
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I have to say, that I like many of these photos, even if I'm not a HDR fan (to put it mildly).
My favourite is the fourth from last (what about numbering the photos next time? )
for I love the way the reflection on the waters look.
But all the last four ones are favourites to me.
Having that said, I would like to ask: what's wrong in letting photos look dark and rainy, when it's dark and rainy?
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Usually photos look crap in dark clouded sky , there is some exception for example what you shows , hdr is a great help to Ian. _________________ -------------------------------
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
although i greatly benefit from hdr in certain situations, i agree with orio that often times its good to maintain the mood of the scene.
btw the 24mm hood is often available for around $20 and it fits all AR lenses except the 21. for that you could get an inexpnsive shallow rubber one... _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
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yinyangbt
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Usually photos look crap in dark clouded sky , there is some exception for example what you shows , hdr is a great help to Ian. |
I agree that overcast sky isn't so appealing and easy for photography . that's why we should be careful and frame as Orio did in his sample : with no sky (when possible).I this way the excessive dynamic range between the sky and the subjects on the ground is avoided.
( interesting about this: http://photo.net/learn/making-photographs/light ) _________________ Cheers , Teo
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their input, I value this type of feedback a lot. I will try some more dramatic shots with more shadows, the NEX has a pretty good dynamic range with DRO enabled so might do quite well despite the awful light. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:52 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I had a play with Silver Efex and I like the vintage look when used with old, decrepit subjects like these.
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nice old style photos , excellent IAN. _________________ -------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Thanks Attila, I think you have to match the subject with the vintage look, modern subjects don't look right with a vintage effect applied imho. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Thanks Attila, I think you have to match the subject with the vintage look, modern subjects don't look right with a vintage effect applied imho. |
Exactly right! _________________ -------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:12 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I tried some night-time shots this evening, not completely successful but interesting imho. Seems this lens is less resistant to flare than my Tokina 3.5/17 and also has more distortion.
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