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Konica Hexanon 4/21mm on NEX-3
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:42 am    Post subject: Konica Hexanon 4/21mm on NEX-3 Reply with quote

Not been any decent weather for photography for a while here but at least the rain stopped so I did my best.















PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice series overall ! Some of them trully excellent!

Next time please resize pictures before upload to 1024 px or 1600px , useless to put bigger size , just eat space on server.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoops, I will remember to resize next time!

I like this lens but I feel I can do better, the rain got in the way of making a lot of the shots I wanted to.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look forward them! These images especially vertical one, looks nicer if we can see them on screen without scrolling


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mystical pictures -
the plastic waste bags and (only if you are picky) the steel roof don´t fully fit to the charater of the images, as they put you back in time before these existed


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian these are really fine shots. the ladder, the framed mossy tree and a couple of b&w's are just brilliant. this is all of a sudden a very valuable lens. btw, when the sun comes out i think you will get best results using a hood. this and the 24mm really benefit from a hood on a bright day.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys, I enjoyed using this lens, very well built, super smooth focus, very easy to focus, I shot all these at f8 and dof seems very deep at that aperture.

My friend actually said 'why don't you move those plastic bags' but I didn't as I didn't have any gloves with me and they were filthy, wish I had followed his suggestion now.

The steel roof is a mystery, no idea why a house that has been derelict for a long time has a modern roof on it. The barn next to it also has a steel roof, most strange.



I planned to go back today to shoot the exterior but sadly it rained all day again.

I also need to buy petal hoods to fit my 21mm and 24mm Hexanons, they came with original cases but no hoods, I think Konica must have sold them as an optional extra as none of my Hexanons came with hoods even though they almost all came with original leather cases.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original Hexanon hood for the 24mm is a rectangular one , it fits on the lens with a screw. I don't know about the 21


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lens is looking well.
These to me show too much exposure compensation in PP.
Take it easy on the Shadow/Highlight filter and/or Dodge burn compensations.
They leave a lot of artifacts and make colors look very strange if overdone.
It's better to have shadows where there is no light Wink
Keep it up.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice series!

sunshine wrote:
These to me show too much exposure compensation in PP

it is the hdr algorithm who work like that
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen the original Konica hood for sale, it would have cost me more than the 24 or 28mm lenses cost me so I passed.

Poilu is correct, it is the HDR, I have to use HDR to get good results when the weather and light are so bad, it really was dark and horrible.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's HDR Was just trying to be subtle Wink

I would say go easy on the sliders. What you are ending up with is a photo that looks like it could have been done by a iPhone or P&S.
Why go to the trouble of using a fabulous lens like the Hex 4/21 on an adapter and expensive camera if you will create final output that in reality mimics a pocket phone.
I'm not an HDR Nazi I promise you (it works nicely when it works nicely).
Using HDR Correctly though is an art in itself.
I live in the Pacific NW or the US. It's often dark and rainy here. The best way to deal with it is longer exposure on a tripod rather than SW algorithms.
Or let shade be shade and compose with the shadows in mind.

There is my critique . Hope you find it useful in some way.

Cheers!


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I know it's HDR Was just trying to be subtle Wink

I would say go easy on the sliders. What you are ending up with is a photo that looks like it could have been done by a iPhone or P&S.
Why go to the trouble of using a fabulous lens like the Hex 4/21 on an adapter and expensive camera if you will create final output that in reality mimics a pocket phone.
I'm not an HDR Nazi I promise you (it works nicely when it works nicely).
Using HDR Correctly though is an art in itself.
I live in the Pacific NW or the US. It's often dark and rainy here. The best way to deal with it is longer exposure on a tripod rather than SW algorithms.
Or let shade be shade and compose with the shadows in mind.

There is my critique . Hope you find it useful in some way.

Cheers!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say, that I like many of these photos, even if I'm not a HDR fan (to put it mildly).
My favourite is the fourth from last (what about numbering the photos next time? Wink )
for I love the way the reflection on the waters look.
But all the last four ones are favourites to me.

Having that said, I would like to ask: what's wrong in letting photos look dark and rainy, when it's dark and rainy?


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually photos look crap in dark clouded sky , there is some exception for example what you shows , hdr is a great help to Ian.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

although i greatly benefit from hdr in certain situations, i agree with orio that often times its good to maintain the mood of the scene.

btw the 24mm hood is often available for around $20 and it fits all AR lenses except the 21. for that you could get an inexpnsive shallow rubber one...


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
Usually photos look crap in dark clouded sky , there is some exception for example what you shows , hdr is a great help to Ian.

I agree that overcast sky isn't so appealing and easy for photography . that's why we should be careful and frame as Orio did in his sample : with no sky (when possible).I this way the excessive dynamic range between the sky and the subjects on the ground is avoided.
( interesting about this: http://photo.net/learn/making-photographs/light )


PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone for their input, I value this type of feedback a lot. I will try some more dramatic shots with more shadows, the NEX has a pretty good dynamic range with DRO enabled so might do quite well despite the awful light.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a play with Silver Efex and I like the vintage look when used with old, decrepit subjects like these.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice old style photos , excellent IAN.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Attila, I think you have to match the subject with the vintage look, modern subjects don't look right with a vintage effect applied imho.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Thanks Attila, I think you have to match the subject with the vintage look, modern subjects don't look right with a vintage effect applied imho.


Exactly right!


PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried some night-time shots this evening, not completely successful but interesting imho. Seems this lens is less resistant to flare than my Tokina 3.5/17 and also has more distortion.


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