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Konica 21mm f2.8 AR
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote




PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg!! what a beauty!!


PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously this one is better than the 21 f4 for use on crop cameras. The corners don't have importance when cropping and the form factor is much better.

Would be nice to see this one head to head against the 21 f4 in 24x36 format. I'm keepeing one 21 f4 and a 15 f2.8 in my closet just in case someday I can use them on digital.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila, this lens is ugly and performs badly! Don't fool yourself! You don't really want it.

Send it to me, I will dispose it in an environmentally correct way. And I even offer you to pay for the shipping as well!!

Wink


PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a combo! Splendid samples too.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LucisPictor wrote:
Attila, this lens is ugly and performs badly! Don't fool yourself! You don't really want it.

Send it to me, I will dispose it in an environmentally correct way. And I even offer you to pay for the shipping as well!!

Wink


Smile


PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Click on image to get higher resolution!
#1


PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, impressive sharpness and colours, no distortion, very nice indeed!

I just bought the 4/21 so be interesting to see if it performs as well as the 2.8/21.


PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Hmm, impressive sharpness and colours, no distortion, very nice indeed!

I just bought the 4/21 so be interesting to see if it performs as well as the 2.8/21.



Congrats!! it will I am pretty sure!


PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to see a comparison with my 21/2.8 Rokkor


PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ivan Lee wrote:
I would like to see a comparison with my 21/2.8 Rokkor


...and 20mm flek Wink


PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never did comparison test in past and I not plan it in future , that is boring I don't like to see it and do it both.

These test ended with result what Canon do , design lenses to MTF charts...


PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
I never did comparison test in past and I not plan it in future , that is boring I don't like to see it and do it both.

These test ended with result what Canon do , design lenses to MTF charts...


...but the people wont know what to buy unless they can get advice from someone........if I wanted to buy a 20mm lens for up to £300, I would be searching MFlenses and the net to see what other people think.


PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
no distortion

This last shot suffers badly from perspective distortion, not the fault of the lens. The buildings leaning outwards on the other side of the river can easily be corrected in PS, but I couldn't correct the sloping tops of the copings on the parapet walls at the sides of the steps in the bottom of the frame. These look unreal to me Smile


PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that is fine. A good Flektogon 20mm f2.8 M42 can be good as than best ones, problem is many of them just nice good lens, but not exceptional.

A good cityscape landscape picture say much more to me than test shoots.

my very subjective rank is next on good wide angle lenses.

first level

Olympus OM 21mm f2 or f3.5 , small , filter thread 49mm only,
Konica Hexanon 21mm f2.8 or f4 faster is smaller 55m filter thread
Yashica ML 21mm
Flektogon 20mm f4 zebra zero distortion
Nikon 20mm UD f3.5 Nikon 20mm f2.8 AIS

second level

Flektogon 20mm f2.8 MC
Tomioka 21mm (Chinon)
Olympus OM 18mm, Nikon 18mm

third level
Tamron SP 17mm

These are comming to my mind from my experience.


PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
no distortion

This last shot suffers badly from perspective distortion, not the fault of the lens. The buildings leaning outwards on the other side of the river can easily be corrected in PS, but I couldn't correct the sloping tops of the copings on the parapet walls at the sides of the steps in the bottom of the frame. These look unreal to me Smile


I didn't notice that, I was looking at the riverbank and it's straight, that tells me what I need to know - it is sufficiently free from distortion in that axis that I could stitch shots made with it. Well spotted Peter, you have a good eye.


PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
Yes, that is fine. A good Flektogon 20mm f2.8 M42 can be good as than best ones, problem is many of them just nice good lens, but not exceptional.

A good cityscape landscape picture say much more to me than test shoots.

my very subjective rank is next on good wide angle lenses.

first level

Olympus OM 21mm f2 or f3.5 , small , filter thread 49mm only,
Konica Hexanon 21mm f2.8 or f4 faster is smaller 55m filter thread
Yashica ML 21mm
Flektogon 20mm f4 zebra zero distortion
Nikon 20mm UD f3.5 Nikon 20mm f2.8 AIS

second level

Flektogon 20mm f2.8 MC
Tomioka 21mm (Chinon)
Olympus OM 18mm, Nikon 18mm

third level
Tamron SP 17mm

These are comming to my mind from my experience.


Tokina 3.5 17mm is excellent, I would say it probably fits into second level, if not, upper end of third level, I love my copy and shoot it a lot, very sharp, very little distortion, great colours, contrast, bokeh. Has a tiny bit of CA but only on the harshest highlights, in most shots CA is not there. Even flare resistance is good for a ultra wide, just all-round a great lens. Sharpness is so good I don't think my shots with it suffer much by comparison to my Hexanon 3.5/28 and that lens is a razor.


PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose that this list is when mounted on APS...

This 21 seems to work like a charm on APS, congrats!


PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rafa1981 wrote:
I suppose that this list is when mounted on APS...

This 21 seems to work like a charm on APS, congrats!


Film is my full frame... I use all my lenses with film too.