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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:20 pm Post subject: Retina C lenses - worth converting? |
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JohnBar wrote:
Retina C lenses like other variants have half the lens 3e attached to the body, so a donar body is needed.
Has anyone converted these beauties to work on mirror less?
I know one cannot mix and match the SK with the Rodenstock lenses, can you think of other issues that may crop up?
The series goes like this
Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Curtar-Xenon C 35mm f/4
Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Curtar-Xenon C 35mm f/5.6 (6+3 elements in 6 groups)
Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon C 50mm f/2 (3+3 elements in 4 groups)
Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon C 50mm f/2.8
Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Longar-Xenon C 80mm f/4 (6+3 elements in 6 groups)
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Rodenstock Retina-Heligon C 35mm f/4
Rodenstock Retina-Heligon C 35mm f/5.6
Rodenstock Retina-Heligon C 50mm f/2
Rodenstock Retina-Heligon C 50mm f/2.8
Rodenstock Retina-Heligon C 80mm f/4 _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
It is common here to take lens from these cheap camera and put them to mirror-less. Samples of both 50mm on NEX.
http://www.dchome.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1103148
http://www.dchome.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1105248 _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
Some very nice samples in that resource, thanks.
I'd love to see digital samples from the Longar 80mm _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
JohnBar wrote: |
I'd love to see digital samples from the Longar 80mm |
http://wanghaou.wordpress.com/2013/03/31/schneider-retina-longar-xenon-80mm-f4%E8%A9%A6%E6%8B%8D/
I think you should able to search them yourself next time. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1437
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:31 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:45 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
It is not difficult to remove the lens from the camera with proper tools (see the exploded diagram on the parts list: http://retinarescue.com/files/retina_iiic_parts_list.pdf) but removing the shutter blades need a bit of work. I think John can shows us how to do it if he is going to do the conversion. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
I expect the work to progress in a similar way to the King Regula which involved stripping the insides to get access to the mount retaining screws. The shutter mechanism makes a nice ornament and looks like a donut made from cogs
The question I have pondered is whether to get a Reflex or a IIIc with the older glass for the donor parts _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
The most difficult part is to remove the lens from a IIIC is the removal of the shutter from the camera(ref: http://www.bigeye.url.tw/big5/d_roden50_2_2.htm). I am not sure about the Reflex. I think you better get both and see which one is easier to convert. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
That seems easier than the Regula, just a lens wrench to free the retaining ring will do it. _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:37 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
I have Kodak Reflex with heligon 50/2, I was panning to modify it. but the camera is very nice LOL , I use film instead. maybe someday, but in short time LOL _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1437
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:37 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
I have to admire your persistence.
There is certainly potential there bernhardas, but it could be a long road.
Thanks for showing these images.
As an aside, would you mind sharing the publication details of the book on your shelf called The Vivitar Guide.
I am interested to see if I can locate a copy.
Gratias
OH |
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bernhardas
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:27 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6006 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
bernhardas wrote: |
Persistence is my middlename
(literally it means the one who is persistent like a wolf. Have a guess what the A stands for )
The ISBN is 0/87165-065-7 by John C Wolf (co/incidence or what) published by Ziff-Davis Publishing New York 1980
Library of Congress Number 80-51117
It describes the Vivitar as is in 1980. No historical information and a few of newer (good) lenses are missing.
It is a solid start as a Vivitar lens book, but unfortunately limited in its time window.
I think it is the only book I know with some (sparse) information on the other accessories, like flash, enlargers, tripods and the like.
Like a true collector I always wish for more. |
Mucho gratias amigo
OH |
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arri
Joined: 13 Jul 2014 Posts: 78
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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arri wrote:
Here's my lens set I converted to Leica M.
http://forum.mflenses.com/schneider-xenon-c-with-attachment-lenses-for-leica-m-t67115.html
I found it worth to give this lenses a new live on a digital camera. |
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
The most difficult part is to remove the lens from a IIIC is the removal of the shutter from the camera(ref: http://www.bigeye.url.tw/big5/d_roden50_2_2.htm). I am not sure about the Reflex. I think you better get both and see which one is easier to convert. |
I now have the Reflex with Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon C 50mm f/2 , for experiments
Dr Frankenstein vill retreat to zee castle in zee vinter to create zee new beings _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
A member of my forum did a conversion with the VNEX...
http://www.digicamclub.de/showthread.php?t=19532&p=212985&viewfull=1#post212985
Regards
Henry _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
... and an EOS 5D MKII
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
A very beautiful solution which must make you proud. It seems to be a worthwhile endeavour judging by the quality of the images
For me I shall most likely follow in the footsteps that I took when I made the Diax solution as below, because I already have these parts:
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