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m43baby
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 Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: Help finding 17mm-24mm lens at 2.8 or lower F stop |
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m43baby wrote:
I"m looking for a wide lens between 17mm - 24mm (no larger than 24mm) for under $300 and dont' want it to be a huge lens it's for my m4/3 camera and doesn't need to be sharp as it's for 'cinematic' videos. Other then the following, what other lenses are there?
20mm Canon FD 2.8
24mm Canon FD 2.8
Vivitar 24mm 2.8
Kiron 24mm 2.0
Sigma 24mm 2.8 |
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Kathmandu
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Kathmandu wrote:
Nikkor UD 20mm f3.8
Auto Vivitar Wide-Angle 20mm f3.8
Super-Takumar 24mm f3.5
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walter g
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Minolta MD 24 2.8.
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Which m4/3 cam do you have? For the NEX, the 16mm 2.8 Sony lens is pretty good.
Or use a 28 or 35mm lens and stick an anamorphic adapter on it.
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walter g
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
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Nikkor UD 20mm f3.8
Auto Vivitar Wide-Angle 20mm f3.8
Super-Takumar 24mm f3.5 |
Good choices, but after rereading the title I think he wants f2.8 or faster.
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Vivitar 24/2 (Komine) is nice and compact. Or the Zuiko 24/2 or 24/2.8.
My favourite in that range is the Nikon Ai/Ais 24/2.8, though the 24/2 might be OK on m4/3 too (soft in the corners on FF).
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Kathmandu
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
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Nikkor UD 20mm f3.8
Auto Vivitar Wide-Angle 20mm f3.8
Super-Takumar 24mm f3.5 |
Good choices, but after rereading the title I think he wants f2.8 or faster. |
Where does he say that? I thought he said no larger than 24 mm . And he wanted to eliminate some lenses from suggestions? I cant be that crazy? 
I must be going crazy-I see it in the title now.  good catch Walt.
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I still think an anamorphic adapter is the best way to get really wide shots for movies, anamorphic movies always look superb to my eyes. I have three very different anamorphic adapters and am currently working on combining one with an objective lens specifically for shooting movies with my NEX.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Konica Hexanon 24mm f2.8 ~ 100-200 USD and a top lens.
Kiron 24mm f2.0
Nikkor , Olympus 24mm f2.0
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Great suggestions Attila, I studied the gallery shots with the Hexanon and they are stunning.
People also speak very highly of the Yashica ML 2.8/24, don't have it myself but the ML 2.8/28 and ML 2.8/35 are both really good.
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eddieitman
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eddieitman wrote:
Super paragon 24mm f2.8 can be had for very little but is a Cimko lens i paid £10 for mine
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m43baby
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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m43baby wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions. I have a GH1 and want to use it for short films.
I recently purchased the pentax 25mm 1.4 but just realized if I move the F stop to let's say 8, the vignietting gets to the point that I don't want to use the lens. At 1.4 it doesn't bother me but I didn't know it changes and now I can't return the lens. Maybe I can sell it on ebay.
What's the cheapest anamorphic adapter I can buy for my GH1 And will it work with any adapted lens such as the ones you guys mentioned? |
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Anamorphic lenses are often not cheap, but I have three very different ones I picked up pretty cheap, a Ross Expandascope, a Rathenower 2x and a Gaumont-Kalee Prismatic Variomorph, if you shop around you should find one without breaking the bank.
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:41 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
I wonder how Spiratone 17/3.2 performs on M43.
Lens has YS interchangeable mount. This one is for Pentax ES. YS mount lenses have T2 threads -- any T2 camera adapter fits, the YS adapters add only the aperture coupling for the camera. This is the last version of the Spiratone lens, contemporary with release of Pentax ES camera. The previous version has A-M switch.
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M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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visualopsins wrote:
(Sigma/)Spiratone also made (at least) two versions of 24/2.8, an early version:
Spiratone Plura-coat YS 1:2.8 f=24mm
and a later version:
Spiratone Plura-coat by Mitake 1:2.5 f=24mm
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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nixland
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:52 am Post subject: |
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nixland wrote:
Just want to share the photos using Nikkor 24/2 Ais on Canon 60D. I got it at $200.
Small and light, suitable for traveling light 
Looks OK for close-up shot too though the bokeh is not very pleasing
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nemesis101
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:03 am Post subject: Cheap anamorphic as suggested |
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nemesis101 wrote:
Click here to see on Ebay
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pat donnelly
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pat donnelly wrote:
A c-mount lens should give higher quality results on the GH-1. I would not part with that Pentax unless you are really stuck for cash?
I am not an expert on video, and strongly suggest you check out the video section on mflenses? There are tricks to get around a small degree of vignetting apart from using the digital zoom, ETC on GH-2. By using a 12.5 c mount lens resolution will be higher than any 135 type lens, but then it will be slightly degraded by use of digital zoom to make it into a normal lens? The tricks revolve around shooting in 720p and then uprating to 1024 or vice versa, losing some focal length.
If you choose the 135 type lens, be aware of the possibility of smearing, caused by the lens reflecting too much light into the throat of the camera and interfering with the image. Using a baffle will tame the focus and smearing, should your lens be a bad example of this.
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