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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 803 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject: Wide angle macro - How did he do it |
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MF-addicted wrote:
Just saw an article in a magazine with wide angle macro shots.
How did he modify the lens. Only with extension rings?
http://www.geo.de/GEO/info/newsletter/abo/54620.html
http://www.geo.de/GEO/fotografie/fotoshows/61010.html
http://pa.photoshelter.com/c/solvinzankl/gallery/Wide-view-macro/G0000Xj5NXkE1giM/
The photographer is Solvin Zankl
http://www.solvinzankl.com/ _________________
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Could be a very wide angle 17-20mm or fisheye with a very short extention tube. I have done similar using that... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 803 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
Found something about deep focus photography, but it seems to be a different system.
http://www.stern.de/wissenschaft/natur/:Satoshi-Kuribayashi-Gro%DFes-Krabbeln-Kamera/573841.html
http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~kuriken/html/japan/gallery-1.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cypherone/2365183259/ _________________
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Canon FD to EOS converted: FD 1,4/24 asph, FD 2,8/300 L
Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 803 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
... and something on extension rings with fisheye lenses.
http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00FdFA _________________
EOS 5D MK II, EOS 5D Classic, EOS 400D --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Canon FD to EOS converted: FD 1,4/24 asph, FD 2,8/300 L
Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
it is not difficult really, super wides already have normally a short focusing distance "by their own nature". With a little tube, they can focus even an object that sits on the front glass. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
These are shot using some endoscope equipment. It can be seen on his site - a camera witha fine long tube in front. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:27 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Maybe you haven't seen that, just posted a bit before, THAT is such a solution to achieve images like the shown ones:
http://forum.mflenses.com/relay-lens-system-to-adapt-short-back-focal-lenses-t18103.html
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:54 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Well, I took the liberty and asked Solvin Zankl how he did it...guess what, the answer was 100% what I had expected "...an artist doen't reveal his tricks...", here the original version:
((quote))
Sehr geehrte Fotografie-Interessierte,
wir freuen uns sehr über die große Resonanz, die die Bilder des GEO-Artikels (09/07) über den Tag der Artenvielfalt ausgelöst haben. Die Reaktionen der Betrachter auf meine Bilder sind für mich von größter Wichtigkeit, da ich bewusst versuche, mit jeder Aufnahme eine Aussage zu transportieren.
Nun ist es so, dass die Fotografie mein Beruf ist und ich mir leider nicht in die Karten schauen lassen kann – ein Zauberkünstler lässt sich ja auch nicht in seine Trick-Kiste schauen.
Aufgrund der Menge an Nachfragen habe ich leider nicht die Möglichkeit, jede Nachricht persönlich zu beantworten. Um auch weiter sehenswerte Arbeiten erstellen zu können, muss ich meine Zeit bevorzugt der Fotografie widmen. Dafuer bitte ich um Ihr Verständnis.
Ich bedanke mich erneut fuer Ihr reges Interesse an meinen Arbeiten und wünsche Ihnen weiterhin viel Freude an der Fotografie
Solvin Zankl
((unquote))
Well, I guess I should learn from him...?? Just some quick, crude tabletop setup, directly from the cam, nothing beautified, just to prove that it is not a big deal to get a bug or flower (this Sanvitalia is ca 10mm in diameter) into some dramatic perspective:
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 803 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
I like your idea of contacting him directly
It was the answer I though he would give.
But your "Solvin Zankl" shot is great. _________________
EOS 5D MK II, EOS 5D Classic, EOS 400D --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Canon FD to EOS converted: FD 1,4/24 asph, FD 2,8/300 L
Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
Lenses for sale, please contact via PM: None at the moment
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poncho_morales
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poncho_morales wrote:
Wow this is just really nice, i wonder if it's possible to use this technique with some telescope eyepieces... thanks for sharing! _________________ EOS 1Ds mark 2, Super Multi Coated Takumar 3.5/35mm and 1.4/50mm, Carl Zeiss Distagon 1.4/35mm, Olympus Zuiko 2/40mm, Olympus Zuiko 2/90mm, Minolta Rokkor 1.2/58mm, Canon 2.8/300mm ssc fluorite |
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PaulC
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PaulC wrote:
He's achieved some very fine effects. Thanks for posting the links.
Judging from the photo of him, he is using a macro flash adapter mounted on his lens to provide fill flash for the subjects, and has it on a very wide angle lens probably with a tube.
The flash will allow him to stop down a bit to try to boost DoF. It seems odd that he appears to use three flash tubes, Canon has a twin-light, with two flashes, for variable flash intensity or a ring light that completely surrounds the lens and gives a flat illumination. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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trifox
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
looking at Solvin's pictures --
he must have a fisheye ...
but I think the fisheye is a main rule..
Nice pictures but .. I don't know ...
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:23 am Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
Here are a couple I just shot to see if it matches what he is doing
The first one is shot with a 20mm flektogon and a 20mm tube, with fill flash positioned close to the flower, at f22.
The second one (which I much prefer, not just because of the blown highlights in the first) is with a 35mm flek and 20mm tube at f8.
Both lenses were focused to infinity.
Using the wider lens with this much extension means you have to get so close to the subject that the lens is casting a shadow on it. A lens-mounted flash would solve that, it is very awkward to shoot using an off-camera flash as I did here. F22 is also essential as the focus point is too close to the front glass, but that obviously means loss of definition from diffraction.
The 35mm is much easier to use - I took some with and some without flash, I think this one was without. Being able to stop down to f8 means no loss of detail through diffraction and provides better background bokeh (which is important as much of the picture is bokeh).
It is very clear from the highlights in the images of the original artist's photoshelter gallery that he is using lens-mounted flash, he would probably get even better images by putting diffusers on the flash heads. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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PaulC
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PaulC wrote:
my last post got duplicated, somehow _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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indianadinos
Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 1310 Location: Toulouse, France
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:43 am Post subject: |
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indianadinos wrote:
The results in your second pics are really fine, i would have never thought about using extension tubes with a wideangle lens (always did it with my 50mm or longer lenses) ...
I think i have found a way to spend some time during my holidays ...
Cheers _________________ Please visit my blogs Shooting with a Pentax K10D / FF Visions
Takumar: 24/3.5, 28/3.5, 35/2, 35/3.5, 50/1.4, 55/1.8, 85/1.8, 105/2.8, 120/2.8, 135/3.5, 150/4, 200/4
Pentax-K: M28/2.8, K28/3.5, M50/1.4, A50/1.7, M50/4 Macro, K85/1.8, K105/2.8, K135/2.5, M200/4, M70-150/4
Zeiss: Flektogon 20/2.8, 20/4, 35/2.4, 35/2.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Biotar 58/2, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer: Primagon 35/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Trioplan 100/2.8, Orestor 100/2.8, Orestor 135/2.8
Schacht/Steinheil: Travenar 90/2.8, Travenon 135/4.5, Quinar 135/2.8, Quinar 135/3.5
Russian: MIR 37B, Industar 50/3.5, Helios 44M & 44M-2, Jupiter 37A
P6: Flektogon 50/4, Biometar 80/2.8, Orestor 300/4
Nikkor: Nikkor-O 35/2, Micro 55/3.5, Nikkor-S 50/1.4, Nikkor-Q 135/2.8
Fuji: EBC 28/3.5, EBC 55/3.5 Macro, EBC 135/2.5
Misc Lenses: Kiron 105/2.8 Macro, Tamron SP90/2.5
... and a few other Vivitar, Tamron, Sigma and Soligor lenses ...
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
A reversal ring is the most important accessory for WA macro - with reversal, you get the full retrofocus distance as additional headroom between glass and subject, while in normal position, the retrofocus design means that you rapidly approach negative (and hence impossible) front lens/subject distances when going macro. _________________ Sevo |
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
I think that Sevo is VERY VERY close to the point ..
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:03 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
I find it rather unsettling that we have to guess his technique because he refuses to tell us. Here is an article I read a long time ago: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/share.htm
While not the most articulate, I have to say I agree with the premise nearly 100%.
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:50 am Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
themoleman342 wrote: |
I find it rather unsettling that we have to guess his technique because he refuses to tell us. Here is an article I read a long time ago: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/share.htm
While not the most articulate, I have to say I agree with the premise nearly 100%.
I guess it just tests our technical skill right? |
I can't agree with that. Ken Rockwell ends his article with a request for donations. Ansell Adams sold his books. Both expected to gain something in return for telling what they knew.
If your knowledge has commercial value, you can't be expected to give it away free to potential rivals.
As for testing our skills - we probably learn more by discussing and experimenting than we would be being told the "secret" in the first place. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
http://shutterstock.com/g/paulcowan |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Hmm, I'm getting a clue what he (Solvin Zankl) might be doing..
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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haley
Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 154
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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haley wrote:
Beautiful, Klaus!
I'm going to have to fuss with this when I get home now. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Thanks Haley,
the whole series is here if you like to see more:
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/relay_lens_systems _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
Those are very nice shots, Klaus, but I don't think you are getting close to the image definition Zankl's examples show and you're clearly having to sharpen quite heavily.
I'd be interested to see examples shot with the reversing ring suggested by Sevo _________________ View or buy my photos at:
http://shutterstock.com/g/paulcowan |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16497 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Who said I'm already there? ("...getting a clue...") It's work in progress... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
Fair enough. But what if he is using a different set-up with fewer optical limitations? _________________ View or buy my photos at:
http://shutterstock.com/g/paulcowan |
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