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pst
Joined: 25 Aug 2010 Posts: 108 Location: Austria
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:24 pm Post subject: Auto Takumar 55 F2.2 ? |
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pst wrote:
Does anyone have information on this lens? I could not find any info using the forum search.
There is one on the bay. The price is still low, so I was wondering how it compares to the F2 version.
Any hints appreciated!
Thanks! _________________ Regards, Patrick. |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I've just had an Auto Takumar 55/2.2 delivered Looks very similar to the 55/1.8 and 55/2...does anyone know if it's the same lens but with a bigger ring inside? _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:18 am Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
According to the PentaxForums lens review database [ http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/category-Pentax-Takumar-M42-Screwmount-Normal-Primes.html ] there were two Tak 55/2.2's, the first (non-Auto) being not so good, and 5 elements in 5 groups. The Auto-Tak 55/2.2 has 6 elements in 5 groups, same as the f/1.8 and f/2 55's, and may very well have the same optics, but I can't tell for sure. I'd say that if it's cheap, go for it, unless you already have faster version(s) and aren't a maniacal LBA victim. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
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pst
Joined: 25 Aug 2010 Posts: 108 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:45 am Post subject: |
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pst wrote:
Thanks for the info and the link to pentaxforums.com!
I guess I'll keep my look out for the F1.8. _________________ Regards, Patrick. |
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vilva
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 785 Location: Porvoo/Borgå, Finland
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:07 am Post subject: |
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vilva wrote:
The f/2.2 is pretty much the same lens as the f/1.8, see http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Pentax_Takumar_Collection.html
Veijo _________________ Mainly Schneider-Kreuznach Radionar (1938), VPK Meniscus Achromat (1915), TTH Cooke Anastigmat (1917), TTH Cooke Aviar (1937), Goerz Dopp-Anastigmat III Dagor (1912), Voigländer Heliar (1928) or Aldis Uno Series III (1903 design) mounted on EOS 5D or EOS 350D |
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
When it's about Takumars, always check my site
http://kajiwara.weebly.com/takumar-5522-v2-65.html _________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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OM
Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Posts: 166 Location: Southern England
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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OM wrote:
Mais, c'est en Francais mon ami |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4572 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Auto Takumar 55 F2.2 ? |
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kuuan wrote:
Centaur wrote: |
Does anyone have information on this lens? I could not find any info using the forum search.
There is one on the bay. The price is still low, so I was wondering how it compares to the F2 version.
Any hints appreciated!
Thanks! |
if it's still available and not expensive I would go for it.
well, if the f2.2 does not disturb you, f1.8/55mm Takumars can still be had for very little too.
both are excellent, the Auto Tak is smaller, looks more lovely, and the Auto Taks render very particular colors I find very attractive, different to those of the later Super, S-M-C and SCM Taks even if some may share the same optical formula _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
IIRC, Fujinon do a 55mm f2.2 and it's very good. |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10462 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Comparing the Auto-Takumar 1:2 f=55 and Auto-Takumar 1:2/55, with the Auto-Takumar 1:2.2/55
Both lenses have identical front and rear element curvatures.
Both lenses are the same length 33mm.
Both weigh 175 g
However, unlike the SuperTakumar 1:2/55 which, except for a max-aperture-limiting ring inside, is identical to the Super-Takumar 1:1.8/55, Isee no such ring in the Auto-Takumar 1:2.2/55.
Gerjan shows differing lens diagrams, and, gives different weights and lengths, however in another place says the lenses are identical, with f/2.2 crippled he doesn't say how. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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KEO
Joined: 27 Sep 2018 Posts: 756 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
I've got both the 2 and the 2.2, and they are not the same, although they look very similar. |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10462 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
KEO wrote: |
I've got both the 2 and the 2.2, and they are not the same, although they look very similar. |
Very cool. I compared the my 2 labelled "1:2 f=55mm" (early), and my 2 labelled "1:2/55" (late) with my 2.2 (Chrome, early). Please tell me what difference(s) do you see in your copies? Thanks!
edit: Just discovered there is a third variation of the 2.2 -- a second chrome 2.2 with a smaller ".2" (supposedly to save room) on dof scale -- mine has both 2s same size.
#1
#2
_________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2483
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
The 2 should have a 2.5mm wider physical aperture. Maybe do a exposure comparison to see if there is a difference _________________ pentaxian |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10462 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
The 2 should have a 2.5mm wider physical aperture. Maybe do a exposure comparison to see if there is a difference |
Been wondering if .2 different aperture can be seen by meter. Haven't tried yet.
Both 2s and the chrome 2.2 have identical physical clear aperture measurements, taken from the front, of 25mm. And all diaphragms close down to the same size... _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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KEO
Joined: 27 Sep 2018 Posts: 756 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
KEO wrote: |
I've got both the 2 and the 2.2, and they are not the same, although they look very similar. |
Very cool. I compared the my 2 labelled "1:2 f=55mm" (early), and my 2 labelled "1:2/55" (late) with my 2.2 (Chrome, early). Please tell me what difference(s) do you see in your copies? Thanks! |
D'oh! I have to correct myself.
I checked them out together, and they do appear to be almost exactly the same. The reason I remembered them being different is because someone did some surgery on the 2 and removed the aperture pin. The aperture function is a bit different from the 2.2 as a result.
It's interesting...they seem to be the same except for the color of the distance scale numbers. The infinity mark and the feet numbers are white on the 2, while they're yellow (the same as the meters numbers) on the 2.2. My guess would be that 2.2 is actually closer to the actual aperture rating, and they simply changed it on later units (the 2.2 has a higher serial number than the 2).
They're both excellent lenses, in any case.
I'd buy the 2.2, since they seem to be a bit cheaper. |
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