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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:56 pm Post subject: Schneider-Kreuznach Angulon 6.8/65 on 6x9 |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I picked this lens up on the correct Graflex lens board to fit my Century Graphic for a very good price. It's in great condition, the glass is clean and the Compur shutter works like new. I read a lot of mixed reviews on this lens so I was a bit worried how it would perform Well, my copy seems good, I use it at f16-22, maybe the people who said it wasn't that sharp, especially in the corners were shooting it wide open?
So far, only thing I don't like about it is 6.5 makes for a dim ground glass in the typical British overcast, but so far I've not had any problems focusing it.
This is the little village of Ravenglass on Fomapan 100, some slight camera shake sadly.
A couple of general street scenes on Kodak Industrex MX125 x-ray film, both at f22, nice and sharp and not much distortion for a wide angle:
My dad's Rover P4, Industrex MX125 again, this film gets rather contrasty in strong light, last two are at f11:
All in all, I really like this lens, it might not be as sharp as a more modern wide angle but it's more than adequate and will serve me well. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Handsome looking combo, sharpness probably more depend from scanner than camera and lens. I know you have old scanner , might next most important step to have a newer sharper scanner. Tonality is nice on pictures , look forward more. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:08 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers. The Industrex is ortho and has microscopic grain, but sadly it's also coated on both sides so this means the sharpness is a little less than with a normal single coated film, but it's good for learning to use this thing and try different lenses. I only paid 99p for a box of 100 sheets of 40x15cm, I cut each sheet up into 8 6.5x9 sheets to fit the Century Graphic so it's very cheap.
My scanner is an old Epson 3200 and it's on it's last legs, so yes, a new scanner is definitely on the shopping list. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Great results with that.
A lens I want plus film I need to try, very interesting post.
If I were you I'd give that village of yours another try in better light.
If you can get blue skies and sunshine, red filter and a tripod.
Yep, probably happens about twice a year in your parts, but when its time its time. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Luis, quite a steep learning curve but I'm getting there slowly.
I've tried to shoot that village a few times, seems I'm always cursed with bad light though.
What would a red filter do with ortho film? I think this film is not true ortho and is just blue sensitive.
The use of coloured filters for bw is on my list of things to try soon, as is movements on the Century for architectural shots with the Angulon. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Nice results, Ian.
I like a lot the Ravenglass one, good gray scale, fine contrast, nice details. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
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Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 564 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:43 pm Post subject: excellent gradation, horrible film handling on old Linhof |
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paulhofseth wrote:
In my brief experience, the Schneider 65 was quite good, but the old Linhof roll film back sometimes worked, sometimes not. Double exposures are not twice as good.
Sheet film 6x9mm was ok but laborious, if you fcorgot using the filmshield, you had lost the snap. Excellent gradation of colours though.
The wide 65, the normal 105 or so, and the tele were optically OK and the combination regularly outperformed my 35mm film bodies. The main problem was that the (very compact) Technica IV did not fit in my (big) pockets like the 35s. I swapped the Technica body for an olympus 50\2 macro in Bievres a long time ago, and also stuck with the Wetzlar-Solms products + perceived alternatives as suitable for jacket pockets.I cannot recall what happened to Schneiders wide , normal and teles.They were good, but the combo was too large, so they had to go.
If you have room for bringing such stuff out and have a decent film back (like the more recent Linhofs), do try bigger formats.
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Jes, I plan to go back there on a nicer day.
Hiya Paul. I have several backs for my Century, the one I have used so far is the Graglex 23 6x9 one, it works very well, not had any flatness issues. I also have Mamiya RB67 120, 220 and 70mm backs, not used them yet. Linhof Rollex backs seem pretty common and fairly cheap on ebay, I've been tempted to get one.
I've almost run out of 120 bw film and it's hard to find cheap, hence I tried using sheets as i already had a lot of x-ray film.
I've found I really like the view camera method, using a ground glass back and loupe, cut sheet holders etc so a move to 4x5 is definitely in my future.
I'm happy with my Angulon 65 and Xenar 3.5/105, they are both good enough, I'd rate them as 'good', capable lenses but there are better out there for sure, eventually I want to upgrade to 'very good' or 'excellent' lenses and in the case of the 65mm, the lens I will go for is the Mamiya K/L 65, it's superb and the cells can be removed and put in a standard shutter. Pretty common and not expensive on ebay. I'm very tempted by the Mamiya 50mm too, that would be very wide on 6x9. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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hifisapi
Joined: 25 Sep 2012 Posts: 941 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
I had an angulon 90mm and a super angulon 65mm, both of which I used on 4x5 and both were quite satisfactory.... _________________ ===========
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I think, in larger formats, the lens is not so critical as with 35mm, and there are a lot of lenses that are good enough. That said, I do drool over the Planar, Biogon and Sonnar that were supplied for the Linhof Technika 6x9. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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