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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 564 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:42 pm Post subject: Chinon (& Rollei) lenses for Alpa |
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paulhofseth wrote:
I tried in vain to post snaps of some Chinon -Alpa lenses on "The camera collector" website, but did not succeed in finding the button for upoloading. Hence pictures here. One will note that they have M42 mounts. Some had the Alpa snap-on filter mounts and lids, others have ordinary threads. For comparison I have also included the Rollei-Singapore-made 35mm.
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 748 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
Interesting brochure. Thanks for posting it, and the lenses.
I post images on "The Camera Collector" regularly. They do not host images on the forum site. My images are uploaded to a third party site (PhotoBucket) and linked to the forum thread. I do the same here. _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
I know a few of the lenses were optically re-labeled BBAR Tamrons. I've specifically had the chinon and tamron versions of the 24, 28, and the 40-105 (the tamron says 38-100) and they look identical. I would think a few other selections like the 135, 200, 85-210, and 80-250 are tamrons as well but I have yet to see them side-by-side.
The build quality is fantastic for this chinon series. One of the best I've encountered. The big mystery is the 1.7/50 Macro. Great lens. Can't really nail down a manufacturer. The early Chinon labeled 1.7/55mms were tomioka and the later 1.7/50s in K mount were Cosinas, I think. Both look to be different designs from the Macro. |
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sceptic
Joined: 01 Jun 2013 Posts: 255
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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sceptic wrote:
The 135 2.8 in picture #3 looks quite like my "expert" 135 2.8 (Canon FD mount), which I´ve never been able to figure out the manufacturer of:
Expert was the name of a Swedish chain of electronics stores, whose logo I´ve seen on a lenscap for a Vivitar lens, so perhaps my lens is an OEM made Chinon or Tamron. Any ideas? _________________ Sony A7R and wildly varying flora of lenses |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thank you for posting these.
They are a name that sits in the back of my memory, but I haven't seen one in the flesh so to speak.
What is the IQ like for these lenses - (presumably it is very good, or you wouldn't have collected them).
Is it in the same ballpark as Takumar or Canon?
Interested in your opinion
Cheers
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 564 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:42 pm Post subject: Not much testing done. |
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paulhofseth wrote:
I got into using the Alpa because it seemed solid, and its short flange distance permitted using other lenses than those very expensive ones that they tested and blessed.
Afte a while, Pignons lost out to the competition and the entire system, both the old small bayonet version, and the Alnea larger bayonet, came cheaply onto the flea markets, and on dealer sales, so I collected it.
I used the Angenieux, Switars and Kinoptics, but after finding that one of the last Japanese efforts was not in the same league, I just left the Chinons in storage. If I ever get time for comparisons, I will post some .
Today, of course, the entire Alpa system is back in vogue among the more discerning, and the Chinon products might see a revival.
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I bought this Chinon 300 / 5.6 on a chance, it cost less than £10 and is in excellent condition so I had it. I'm glad I did, it's not the fastes lens in its class - the Tair is 4.5 for a start. But this beautifully made lens is less than half the weight of the Tair, 1.53g compared to 0.63g, and the Chinon is 85mm shorter. All that is nothing if the lens is poor, especially as the Tair has a great reputation. But I would rate the Chinon as a very close competitor in sharpness, but it wins hands down because you can hand hold the Chinon where the Tair needs scaffolding
This is a very under rated lens in my opinion, and I'm pleased to see there are other well thought of lenses in the same range. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 2877
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
The aperture scale, black lacquer finish and focus grip pattern seen on 135 and 200mm remind me Soligor CD series that was made mostly by Tokina. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
fermy wrote: |
The aperture scale, black lacquer finish and focus grip pattern seen on 135 and 200mm remind me Soligor CD series that was made mostly by Tokina. |
Very much so, the gloss finish is identical, the green and red engravings are the same colour shade, the 28 / 2 CD Soligor has a similar window to read the f stops, the diamond grips are the same. The Chinon is obviously mainly plastic as opposed to the CD's metal, but I think there is a lot to link the two. I've got a Soligor CD 70-210 / 3.5 that is probably older than the 28, but that shares a lot with the Chinon. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I had a Soligor 70-150 that had the same finish with the diamond grips. It was a surprisingly good lens, I think it was made by Tamron. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 564 Location: Norway
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:19 am Post subject: |
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paulhofseth wrote:
"........diamond grips are the same. The Chinon is obviously mainly plastic as opposed to the CD's metal, but I think there is a lot to link the two......."
I had time today to check the mount material; the Chinon made, Alpa labelled lenses have metal mounts. I also took a look at the last mount made for Kern Switar 50 when there were optical cells but not any longer Swiss mounts available. It is very similar.
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:14 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
They may have opted to make the larger lenses with more plastic to cut down on weight. The primes and zoom I had were all metal except for the A/M switch. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
paulhofseth wrote: |
"........diamond grips are the same. The Chinon is obviously mainly plastic as opposed to the CD's metal, but I think there is a lot to link the two......."
I had time today to check the mount material; the Chinon made, Alpa labelled lenses have metal mounts. I also took a look at the last mount made for Kern Switar 50 when there were optical cells but not any longer Swiss mounts available. It is very similar.
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Nah, where did you see plastic CHINON prime? Even their 1.9/50mm PK which is low budget is very well made metal lens. _________________ ---------------------------------
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 564 Location: Norway
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:26 pm Post subject: plastic |
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paulhofseth wrote:
ask Lloydy, whom I quoted.
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