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Carenar 45mm f2.8 on Nex5n - oversize
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Carenar 45mm f2.8 on Nex5n - oversize Reply with quote
I actually won this lens on Ebay for about $16

I have been informed by a friend who services lenses that it is a copy of the 45mm f2.8 tessar.
I have given the lens a bit of a review here:
http://protas.metalforfishes.com/?p=1487





I have found out that this is a re-branded lens, I am unsure of the original manufacturer. This is all I have been able to find so far about the Carenar brand:

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Quelle is a german company selling by command from a catalogue but also has shops in bigger german towns. They also had a chain called Foto Quelle for photogear and film but after being big in the 70s (older photographers toldme they were really good shops concurring with specialised photodealers) and declining at the end of the 80s they were closed in the middle of the 90s. The Quelle shops (selling from clothes to household and electronics) were also in trouble in the last years but some of them still exist and even have a little department of photographic gear and film development service.
The catalogue selling business still flourish as far as I know. Interesting side note, after the german postal market was liberalised and the Deutsche Post lost his monopol situation Quelle opened his sending channels used before to deliver the products from the catalogue to everyone, not only customers. They were for long time (and still are) the cheapest method to send things around in Germany.
http://www.quelle.de/ (Oh… the site says Quelle was sold. Seem they couldn’t avoid bankrupcy.)
Quelle (or Foto Quelle) had two lines of inhouse brand cameras: Revue or Revueflex (SLRs) and Carena. The corresponding lenses were labeled Revuenon and Carenar.
Behind this two names they sold anything they could get from GDR (mostly Praktica but I believe also some compacts and some 6×6 or 6×4,5 box cameras), USSR (ZTM and M42 Zenits, LTM rangefinders, TLRs, compacts, etc.), China (mostly Seagull TLRs but folders also), Japan (different producers, not only Cosina and Chinon also “better” names) and even USA (especially Polaroid instant cameras).
I don’t know why the two lines. It seems to me that Carena was introduced later but did not replace the Revue/Revueflex line.


I have now since found a post here with a Petri 45mm f2.8 which is the same lens, which adds further intreag to this mystery:
http://forum.mflenses.com/petri-2-8-45-inm42-t52043.html

I went for a walk around the old Atlantis ruins in Yanchep here and took some 100% crops:
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Last edited by Hood on Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:38 am; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
For a cheapo lens it seems to do pretty good. Were these all shot wide open?


PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow, what a crapfest! Surprised Very Happy Has a nice oldschool feel to it though. Smile


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mos6502 wrote:
For a cheapo lens it seems to do pretty good. Were these all shot wide open?


No sorry, I should have mentioned that here. I mentioned it in my review, but obviously forgot to post it here.
I shot these all at f5.6, I find most lenses perform a little better when stopped down just that little bit. All shot freehand of coarse, and you get no stabilisation in the Nex, so there may be some hand shake.

miran wrote:
Wow, what a crapfest! Has a nice oldschool feel to it though.


I actually think this lens performed rather well for an old unknown lens. The colours are ok, the contrast is a little poor, but the sharpness is fair and it has a reasonable amount of 'POP' to it's rendering. It's bokeh is a little distracting, but some people like that. I find this lens has a nice "character" to it, meaning it's flaws actually add something to the rendering for me. I shot a Primagon on my Nex5 at the same time for comparison, my copy may need a service or something, as this actually looked to be sharper than the Primagon.... but I have not properly looked at the Primagon series yet. So we will see. However for a small little unknown lens that I picked up for $16, I feel this lens is a nice little performer in that 45mm bracket.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hood, please re-size your images manually to 1024px wide or use built in upload which will resize them and link genuine pictures to resized ones.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Hood, please re-size your images manually to 1024px wide or use built in upload which will resize them and link genuine pictures to resized ones.


I'm sorry Atilla, I meant no offence. That is just the size the photos are sized to on Facebook where I store them.
How do I do resize with link?
Can you guys not put an auto resize plugin into the forum?
We have put such in place on the fish forum I run and many of the other photo forums I visit do the same.
Just an idea.

Edit:
Maybe I should have posted this in the oversize gallery.
Sorry.
Can you please move it there.
Sorry again, I did not mean to do wrong.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks ok to me these carenars can surprise i have two that are korean and they are pretty nice infact i like the bokeh i sometimes like crazy bokeh


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
eddieitman wrote:
Looks ok to me these carenars can surprise i have two that are korean and they are pretty nice infact i like the bokeh i sometimes like crazy bokeh


That is interesting. My copy is labeled made in Japan.
I also have a HC Carenar 28mm f2.8 in Minolta SR mount but that lens is not labeled where it was made.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I love the abandoned marine park for photos... shame there isn't more stuff left there Sad

-Ben


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I doubt this Carenar series really is that old. It's one of the last M42 made. What i find cool is that lens is mechanically unique. It's body really has no similar.
Manufacturer is a mystery.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting lens, renders like a Tessar. Its a bit softer than an actual CZ Tessar though.
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