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rbelyell
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 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:47 pm Post subject: tamron sp 28-135mm vs kiron 28-105mm: opinions sought |
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rbelyell wrote:
hi all
i find myself in many situations where a zoom in the 28-135mm range would be very useful. ive come across these two that i think are reasonably priced, but do not know very much about their comparative performance. can anyone provide me their thoughts on how these lenses perform and which would offer best IQ?
thanks
tony
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rbelyell
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rbelyell wrote:
no one has either of these lenses?
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GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
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Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
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Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
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mo
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mo wrote:
I only have the Auto Tamron 2.8/135 
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I know Poolhall has the Kiron and is really impressed with it. He rarely visiits here now but you could message him for some samples.
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rbelyell
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rbelyell wrote:
thanks guys! i will probably make the decision today to pass on the kiron unless i get some more feedback. i have the kiron 28-85 which i think is good but not great, so i might just try the sp for the extra FL unless i hear otherwise from members...
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GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
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Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
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Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
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Russ
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Russ wrote:
I have and use the Tamron SP 24-135AF (auto-focus) lens and the Kiron 28-105 lens. As for image quality, I don't really know. Both of them deliver superb results. On my auto-focus bodies, I use the Tamron SP 24-135AF and Tamron SP 20-40AF almost exclusively. When going with a manual focus lens, I usually grab my Vivitar Series 1 28-90 over any other manual focus lens. But, I do prefer the Kiron 28-105 over the excellent Kiron 28-85.
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rbelyell
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rbelyell wrote:
thanks i appreciate yur reply. unfortunately kiron is gone and im debatng getting the sp or just making do with the kiron 28-85 i already have....
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GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
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Russ
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Russ wrote:
If you prefer an auto-focus lens, you'll be very pleased with the Tamron SP 24-135 lens. However, if you prefer a manual focus lens, the Vivitar Series 1, 28-90 or Kiron 28-105, will deliver professional caliber results. Personally, the majority of my published snaps have been made with the Vivitar Series 1 28-90 glass. But, as of late, my Tamron SP 24-135 and Tamron SP 20-40 have been the workhorses in my arsenal...
You can't go wrong with any of the above mentioned lenses.
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Russ wrote:
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| thanks i appreciate yur reply. unfortunately kiron is gone and im debatng getting the sp or just making do with the kiron 28-85 i already have.... |
I prefer the Vivitar Series 1 28-90 over the Kiron 28-85. However, the the Kiron 28-85 delivers the goods!
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rbelyell
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rbelyell wrote:
thanks! it appears no one has any experience with the tamron sp 28-135mm, which is unusualy for this forum, and so gives me some pause. while the 24-135 seems to get nice reviews here, its mot really what im looking for as i want an adaptall or m42 or c/y lens usable on a variey of cameras. i really would love to have someone comment specifically on the 28-135mm if theres anybody out there w some experience!
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GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
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Russ
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Russ wrote:
Try these groups. I've never heard of an Tamron "SP" 28-135 lens.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/tamron-lenses/
http://www.flickr.com/groups/tamron-usa/
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tamronlenses/
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ryan s wrote:
This is not my blog, but it is my former lens 
http://www.techtheman.com/2009/03/tamron-sp-28-135mm-f40-45-adaptall-2.html
http://www.techtheman.com/2009/03/hiking-with-tamron-sp-28-135mm-adaptall.html
I've never owned the Kiron so impressions would be one-sided. The Tamron performs pretty nicely (keeping in mind the era in which it was made wasn't known for fantastic zoom lenses) but it's huge and heavy as a trade-off for f/4 speed and really nice focal range.
It is still a metal SP, however. That alone is an indicator of the build and image quality. I'm sure you're well aware of the 80s SP lenses...no real duds (except the Adaptall mounts themselves...).
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Olivier wrote:
Hello RebelYell.
I have this very lens ! 
Tamron AD2 (28A) SP 4-4,5/28-135
I got it 2 weeks ago. It's a fine lens, quite rare isn'it ? 
Max aperture : f:32
Min focusing distance : 0,26m
Filter diam : 67mm
Weight : 710 grs
Macro ratio : 1:1.4
Diaph : 6 blades
I'll post some samples in few minutes. 
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well I have the Kiron 28-105 and it's a very good zoom esp at the 28mm end:-
Kiron zoom 28-105mm
Kiron zoom 28-105, Kodak gold
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
I just created a specific topic for the Tamron 28-135 :
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1106878.html#1106878
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spleenone wrote:
| Excalibur wrote: |
Kiron zoom 28-105, Kodak gold
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Very nice capture. Horses are lovely target for photography.
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rbelyell
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
yeah, i agree. thanks guys for the advice. per looking at oliviers captures i decided to buy the sp. we,ll see what i can do with it!
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GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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Excalibur wrote:
| spleenone wrote: |
Very nice capture. Horses are lovely target for photography. |
It's a bit sad as the horse is going (or is) blind in it's right eye 
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