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Nilez83
Joined: 06 Apr 2016 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:30 pm Post subject: Should I return this old Sigma Mini Wide II? Fungus? |
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Nilez83 wrote:
Hi Folks,
I wanted to ask you experts a quick question. I got this old Sigma Mini-Wide II from a Dutch auction site. I asked the seller if the lens contained any fungus beforehand and he said that it didn't. Now I'm still learning a lot about old lenses and stuff and saw a couple of examples where there is fungus on or etched in the front glass. This seems to be the case with my lens? It shows primarily when I hold it at an angle instead of head on. Should I return it? I paid 40 euro's for it (45 dollars)
Thanks much in advance,
Niels
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2913 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Should I return this old Sigma Mini Wide II? Fungus? |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Nilez83 wrote: |
Hi Folks,
I wanted to ask you experts a quick question. I got this old Sigma Mini-Wide II from a Dutch auction site. I asked the seller if the lens contained any fungus beforehand and he said that it didn't. Now I'm still learning a lot about old lenses and stuff and saw a couple of examples where there is fungus on or etched in the front glass. This seems to be the case with my lens? It shows primarily when I hold it at an angle instead of head on. Should I return it? I paid 40 euro's for it (45 dollars)
Thanks much in advance,
Niels |
Good question. First post photos won't show until someone quotes it, an antispam measure. Hopefully this works. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2913 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
I would return that one. You should be able to find a good example of a similar or identical lens for that price. What camera are you shooting? _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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Nilez83
Joined: 06 Apr 2016 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Nilez83 wrote:
Ah I see, thanks jamaeolus! I will be shooting with the Canon T3i (600D) with an adapter ring
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Return it. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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!Karen
Joined: 20 Jul 2013 Posts: 837 Location: Belgium Baby
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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!Karen wrote:
That lens looks pretty beat up , looks like someone tried to open it already. Weren't there any pictures in the listing?
Anyway, I would return that thing as well if that's a possibility. _________________ FLICKR PHOTOSTREAM |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2913 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
The Canon EOS system allows for a pretty good range of lenses.
This site shows register distance in various camera systems. If the camera system has a LONGER flange than your camera it allows an adapter to be easily made and most lenses that can have adapters do have them. Off the top of my head, Contax/Yashica (CY), Olympus (OM), Pentax (PK), Nikon, M42 and Exakta mount camera lenses should all have inexpensive adapters.
By flange distance:
http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/~westin/misc/mounts-by-register.html
and alphabetically
http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/~westin/misc/mounts-alphabetical.html#vBessamat _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1301 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Send it back. I have heard these sigmas are difficult to disassemble to clean.
M42, Nikon, Contax-Yashica, Olympus OM, PK all easily adaptable to eos. Watch out for old minolta MD mounts - very common, no good for eos. See
http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-99.html
Alt: Tokina RMC 28mm is of similar IQ to sigma miniwide II IME. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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Nilez83
Joined: 06 Apr 2016 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Nilez83 wrote:
Wow thanks heaps for the fast and helpful responses folks!! I'll take a look at the alternatives mentioned. The eos adapter rings for m42 are indeed cheap. In the meantime I emailed the seller and he agreed to take it back, so this is likely going to end well. Next time I'll make sure I watch out for clearer and more pics from different angles in the listing. Lesson learned. |
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Definitely return it! Even with the desirability of the Sigma xxxx-Wide II models, you paid way too much for a lens in that condition. $10-15 USD tops.
I concur with marcusBMG, seek out a Tokina. I managed to pick up a nearly new Sigma Mini-Wide I. But it was bested in every way by a Tokina EL 28-f2.8. IIRC, the SL/EL models came after the RMC, but seem to be optically the same.
Another suggestion, Canon nFD 28mm f/2.8. It's simply excellent, one of the best rendering 28mm I've tried. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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Nilez83
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Nilez83 wrote:
Hi WNG555, big rookie mistake then lol. Glad I can return it. Aren't those fd lenses a problem for the crop sensor canons? I heard the glass element in the adapter tends to degrade the image quality a bit. You do see those fd lenses a lot here so it would be cool if it was still a possibility for a rebel series body. |
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Nilez83 wrote: |
Hi WNG555, big rookie mistake then lol. Glad I can return it. Aren't those fd lenses a problem for the crop sensor canons? I heard the glass element in the adapter tends to degrade the image quality a bit. You do see those fd lenses a lot here so it would be cool if it was still a possibility for a rebel series body. |
Doh! My bad! I was reading through the posts so quickly I forgot this is adapting to EOS.
Yes, you're right, skip the FD lenses.
Olympus is easily and often adapted for EOS. Their f/2.8 is very good, and the f/3.5 is cheaper, but still delivers. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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Nilez83
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Nilez83 wrote:
no problem, nice to see that being confirmed by one of you guys. I'll hunt for the other brands. |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I did end up fixing my Mini-Wide I, which had a haze problem, not fungus - I suspect such haze here.
Its probably the result of deposits of evaporated lubricant.
The Mini Wide I is in fact not that difficult to disassemble though the Mini-Wide II has a different construction and I cant say for certain.
In any case, the price is too much for a fixer-upper. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2913 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Even with careful scan of images it is easy to get fungus infected lens. As you experienced it can be hard to even get to show in a photo when you want it to. Be careful of "as-is" auctions with little or no description and/or poor photos, just don't overpay on those. Some manufacturer lens are more prone to fungus than others. I love Olympus ergonomics and optics but they are amongst the most prone to fungus in my experience. Pentax lenses in IMHO are a safer buy than most. Anyway, don't hesitate to return lenses that are not as advertised. I have returned a few, or had price adjustments. Good hunting and welcome to the forum. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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