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yinyangbt
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 Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:52 am Post subject: Vivitar 28/1.9 vs vivitar 28/2 ? |
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yinyangbt wrote:
What can you tell about these lenses , ressemblences and differences?
Which could be a good price in your oppinion?
Thanks !
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:30 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I don't know the Vivitar 1.9/28.
But I do know the Vivitar 2/28 and a Vivitar 1.9/35.
The Viv 2/28 is good on fullframe and excellent on APS crop.
The Viv 1.9/35 is a little better on fullframe (edges) but not as good as the 2/28 on crop. The 2/28 is generally sharper than the 1.9/35.
At least my copies are.
I can recommend both lenses.
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ovim
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:18 am Post subject: |
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ovim wrote:
There is two different Vivitar 2/28s. Kino (Kiron) made and Komine made "Close Focus". |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:40 am Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
I believe the 28/1.9 is the Series 1 lens, but I've never seen a direct comparison of it and the 'regular' 28/2. When the Series 1 family was introduced, the range was claimed to be pretty much state-of-the-art.
I did have a 28/2 some years ago which performed well on film.
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
| ovim wrote: |
| ...Komine made "Close Focus". |
That's the one I had.
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PBFACTS
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
| scsambrook wrote: |
| I believe the 28/1.9 is the Series 1 lens. |
28/1.9 S1 komine made / ~1975 optigon design with back element fixed (= floating)
28/2 is different design (1980) / Komine made (usually top) or kiron made (usually vg to excellent)
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woodrim
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
If you find a f/2 Close Focus, don't hesitate.
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Ivan Lee
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Ivan Lee wrote:
I have both lenses, the Viv 28/1.9 and the 28/2 CF komine made
I think that the Viv 28/2 is sharper, specially wide open, but there is some CA, but at f/2.8 is gone, and the sharpness stopped down is stunning.
I'll post later a comparison I made with both lenses
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Screamin Scott
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Screamin Scott wrote:
I wish I also had the Komine made 28mm F2 Vivitar. I do have the Kiron made & it is sharp but I 'd like to compare them to each other. (now I do have the 28mm F2.8 CF & 135mm F2.8 CF Komine made Vivitar lenses) Anyone have both the 28 F2 & 28 F2.8 CF Komine made Vivitars? opinions?
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Nikkor AF //50/1.8,//Nikkor MF//50/2ai,50/1.8ais 50/1.4ai,24/2.8ais,28/2.8ai,28/3.5ai,55microAis/2.8,105/2.5ai,200/4ai,300/4.5ai35-135/3.5Ais,et al
Kiron /Kino made lenses//70-210/4ai,28-105/3.2ai,30-80/3.5ai,Viv 28/2ai,35-85/2.8aiVivS1,105/2.8Ais Dine,24-48/3.8ai VivS1,50-150/3.8aiViv,28-85/2.8aiViv,100/2.8Nai Viv,70-210/3.5Nai Viv,28/2.5ai Viv Komine made Viv//24/2Ais,135/2.8aiCF,28-50/3.5ai,28-90/2.8ai Viv S1,80-200/4.5aiCosina made Viv 19/3.8 Ais...Also Sigma 24/2.8 Ais Tokina made24/2.8ai VivAF Sigma 21-35/3.5,& other lenses... A link to some of my Flickr albums...
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revers
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
My Vivitar 28/2.8 is Bauer made. I have not had a chance to give it a good work-out.
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Ivan Lee
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Ivan Lee wrote:
link to full res samples
Vivitar 28/2 CF wide open:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9746/viv282.jpg
Vivitar 28/2 @ f/2.8:
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/842/viv2821.jpg
Vivitar 28/1.9 wide open:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3114/viv2819.jpg
Vivitar 28/1.9 @ f/2.8:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4987/viv28191.jpg
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bogolisk
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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bogolisk wrote:
Hi Ivan,
How does the Vivs compare to your Rokkor 28/2 ?
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Ivan Lee
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Ivan Lee wrote:
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Hi Ivan,
How does the Vivs compare to your Rokkor 28/2 ? |
Hey!
The Vivitar 28/2 CF is close in sharpness to the Minolta, but the Minolta is even sharper wide open and is much better on the CA department
The same scene with the Minolta:
wide open:
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6687/min28p.jpg
f/2.8
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/397/min281.jpg
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yinyangbt
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:12 am Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
It's clearly better, the viv 28/2 Thank you for your information and links.
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no-X
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I remember a comparision of 28/1.9 (Tokina) and Komine 28/2.0. Wide-open sharpness was very similar. I think Kiron 28/2.0 has more distorsion than Tokina and Komine...
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bogolisk
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bogolisk wrote:
thank you Ivan
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
I would imagine the Minolta can't focus as closely? I'd love to use more Minolta glass, and even have some left over from film days, but the mount is the problem despite my having a descendant Sony camera. Vivitar came in M42 which makes life much easier. I curse Minolta for changing mounts when they went auto-focus.
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Ivan Lee
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Ivan Lee wrote:
| woodrim wrote: |
| I would imagine the Minolta can't focus as closely? I'd love to use more Minolta glass, and even have some left over from film days, but the mount is the problem despite my having a descendant Sony camera. Vivitar came in M42 which makes life much easier. I curse Minolta for changing mounts when they went auto-focus. |
yeah, the Minolta focus only to 0.3m (I think it's the norm for most 28mm lenses), and the Viv focus to 0.23m
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