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iangreenhalgh1
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 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:18 pm Post subject: Hoya (Tokina) f5.6 400mm on NEX-3 |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Found this lens in the back of the cupboard, forgot I had it.
Surprisingly decent, doesn't have the typical severe purple fringes of the 3.5/200, 4.5/300 Hoya/Tokinas.
Without PP and with PP, all wide open at 5.6:
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
PP is essential on all pictures and this lens not failed at all , nice result really!
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Yes, I only did most basic PP - Auto Contrast in CS5 then Nik Software Sharpener.
Really surprised by this lens, at f8 it should be really good, I'll try it again soon.
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ChromaticAberration wrote:
Dunno about the lack of sharpness but the lack of contrast may be explained by the lack of hood.
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I don't see any lack of sharpness, and it has a long built-in hood, contrast isn't lacking, there was some mist in the air, a sea mist was coming in, I was going to take it to the shore to shoot some seabirds but the mist prevented this.
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Lloydy wrote:
I'd say it needs to come out of the cupboard a bit more often, that looks a good lens.
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
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| I'd say it needs to come out of the cupboard a bit more often, that looks a good lens. |
Sure, I'm going to try some birding with it.
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Toeteraar wrote:
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| I'd say it needs to come out of the cupboard a bit more often, that looks a good lens. |
Sure, I'm going to try some birding with it. |
Nice samples
How does such a large lens handle on the very small NEX ?
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Handling is not so great, as you can imagine. However it's useable handheld as it balances quite well.
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vlousada wrote:
Hi,
Considering those were shot @ f/5.6, which is maximum aperture of that lens, the results seems to be quite good. To be honest i did expect lesser results both in sharpness and contrast! Ok, the contrast could be better on that lens, but improvement can be easily achieved with basic PP..
On last image it is more visible the purple fringing /CA which I do believe can be easily corrected in ACR..
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Vitor.
I tried the lens at distance today and it's quite crap, the details lost and the results quite muddy, obviously it's not bad at shorter distances but not good enough for distance work, and for me, a long lens is for distance shooting. 
With and without PP at either f8 or f11:
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#11 100% crop of two oystercatchers about 40m away, shows the lack of resolution:
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
With PP okay for it's price.
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Yes, but I've become a bit of a lens snob now, (might be your fault!  ) so I'm selling it, I have a Tair-3 300mm and the Konica 300mm and those are much better.
If anyone wants a mint condition Hoya 400mm lens in Konica AR mount, PM me with an offer for this one!
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I did a 4 shot stitch with it, not bad, a bit muddy, it's useable but I prefer a higher level of IQ, I've become a bit spoilt I guess.
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Hi Ian,
Your words let me think about my Soligor 6.3/400, same as Luis' one :
http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-tokina-400-6-3-the-biggest-of-the-t4s-t7857,highlight,%2Bsoligor+%2B400.html
Is it the same kind of lens as yours ?
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Hi Olivier.
No, my lens is same as this one:
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Lloydy wrote:
You might get better results with long shots on a better day than today, the haze is very bad down here today and you can see it affecting your shots as well.
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Yes, there was some heat haze visible today.
I went back in the afternoon and shot with my monster Wollensak Apochromatic Raptar 21.25 inch, it did better than the Hoya, but to be honest, I really don't like shooting these long lenses, and with no IS on the NEX, they are a real challenge to avoid shake, even with my nice sturdy Velbon tripod.
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patrickh wrote:
Mine must come out of the cupboard for a run (Tokina version)
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you Ian.
Not the same at all.
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 12:42 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Its the same maker as my 400/6.3 Soligor (Tokina), but the design is very different.
Neither are very good.
My best 400's right now -
Schneider 360mm/5.5 (not quite 400mm, but close enough)
Komura 400/6.3 - the Schneider is a bit better
Tamron 400/6.9 - I have two versions, the Nestar collapsing type and the plain one. These are great.
Mamiya (Tokina) 400/6.3 preset. Its surprising Tokina couldn't just remount this as an automatic, but they didn't
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iangreenhalgh1
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 3:12 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Good info, Luis, Cheers.
I have a Tair-3C and a Konica 4.5/300, both superb so I'm happy with those, I doubt I'll need a 400mm, the 300s should be fine.
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