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Kathmandu
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 Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:54 am Post subject: Helios-44-2 58mm f2 |
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Kathmandu wrote:
Some of you were doing reviews on on the Helios-44-XX lenses-I've had one copy o the Helios sitting on the shelf mounted on a Yashica TL, so I decided to take it down, and take it for a "swirl". I noticed an oily film on the inside edges of the elements,and took the outer elements out and cleaned it -with 50/50 Isoprophyl and distilled water.
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mo
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mo wrote:
Must be nice to just be able to clean your own lens  I have yet to get a Helios of any sort...what does this one look like?Love the flowers, actually I like all of the images and their bokeh 
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
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Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Kathmandu
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
| mo wrote: |
| Must be nice to just be able to clean your own lens I have yet to get a Helios of any sort...what does this one look like?Love the flowers, actually I like all of the images and their bokeh |
Its more out of necessity, plus "I'm passionate about lenses"-like most people here ~ -Thanks .
Here's some images of the lens-I bought mine on Ebay from an Canadian seller-along with some other lenses-2yrs ago. Looks like it could use another cleaning before I put it away  I would recommend this lens based on my experience with this lens.-Its built solid, color tone,sharp wide open-feels good in the hand. The aperture is like the preset Biotar -no clicks -you get accustomed to the no click easily ,and might come to like that feature.I know that its got to be a great feature to have for video on a DSLR. This lens benefits a lot in having a lens hood-I have mine on it most of the time.
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Joosep
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Joosep wrote:
Veri nice.
Thats the KMZ made 44-2.
I have two 44-2s and the KMZ one is so much better !
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mo
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:00 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks for the photos they clear up an issue I have been having over which one to buy.
I notice the lens has the sunken front element, most Helios that I see on Oz ebay have the front element flat across....I would guess the sunken Helios is the one to get?
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
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Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Joosep
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Joosep wrote:
The 44M has the never one, more resolution.
44 has the "sunken" element and produces much more interesting photos.
I myself prefer the 44, because of the "sunken" first element, it has a "built in hood".
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fizuwy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:39 am Post subject: |
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fizuwy wrote:
My Helios
53/2
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martinsmith99
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I never tire of seeing Helios images. Especially the ones that are shrp wide open.
I love my 44-2, but sadly my 5Dii doesn't. Thankfully the 44M range works. 
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fizuwy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:53 am Post subject: |
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fizuwy wrote:
Why I can not post the image?
Who can tell me how? Thanks .
I post the image by the code of " [img]...[/img]'
http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/41305562.jpg |
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Joosep
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Joosep wrote:
Yet again im gonna paste this here...
Гелиос-44 -- 35/14 линий/мм
Гелиос-44-2 -- 38/20 линий/мм
Гелиос-44-7 -- 36/17 линий/мм
Гелиос-44М-4 -- 38/19 линий/мм
MC Гелиос-44М-4 -- 41/20 линий/мм
MC Гелиос-44K-4 -- 42/21 линий/мм
MC Гелиос-44М-5 -- 41/20 линий/мм
MC Гелиос-44М-6 -- 45/25 линий/мм
MC Гелиос-44М-7 -- 50/30 линий/мм
You can see the resolution rising by a bit almost every time.
(center/edge lines/mm)
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Joosep
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Joosep wrote:
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My Helios
53/2
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Umm.. Thats the Helios 81...
Topic is about the 44.
One of my Helios is 85/1.5, nothing to do with the 44....
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mo
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mo wrote:
Hi fizuwy
you can not post a image in your first post as an anti spam measure,try now and you can Welcome by the way!
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Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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fatdeeman
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
I'm nearly always impressed by 44 images, but it shouldn't be surprising when you consider where the design comes from.
And you can still get these lenses for next to nothing
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Nowhere I can find trhe resolution power of the 44-3 (44-2 with MC and better resolution?).
It´s a good lens.
Rino.
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