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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:21 am Post subject: Olympus OM 300mm f4.5 sell or not to sell |
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Attila wrote:
http://www.mflenses.com/olympus-om-4.5-300mm-lens-review.html
I not afford to keep all my 300mm lens, I have to decide what will go.
1) CZJ Olympic Sonnar 300mm f4
2) CZJ Sonnar 300mm f4 MC
3) Nikkor 300mm f4.5 ED-IF
4) Olympus OM 300mm f4.5
First two part of my DDR lens collection so they are my last choices, last two are very , very good lenses. Any thoughts ? _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Flor27
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1195 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
I would trash any lens that doesn't smell good old russian grease if I was you... ... just kidding. _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:16 am Post subject: Re: Olympus OM 300mm f4.5 sell or not to sell |
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Laurence wrote:
Attila wrote: |
http://www.mflenses.com/olympus-om-4.5-300mm-lens-review.html
I not afford to keep all my 300mm lens, I have to decide what will go.
1) CZJ Olympic Sonnar 300mm f4
2) CZJ Sonnar 300mm f4 MC
3) Nikkor 300mm f4.5 ED-IF
4) Olympus OM 300mm f4.5
First two part of my DDR lens collection so they are my last choices, last two are very , very good lenses. Any thoughts ? |
I've owned the Sonnar 300/4 (non-MC, non-Olympic) on a previous Pentax 645 (Pentacon mount). It was the best lens I had, and that included some fine Pentax glass. It was "best" in sharpness, although it took some real "pixel peeping" to see any differences. So let me say that, to my eyes, on a 20x30 enlargement, the sharpness was completely breathtaking, and that was good enough for me.
But the REAL shine was that sort of "tonality" rendered. Another person in my camera club at the time, had the Nikkor H 300/4.5, and we did the "usual" informal test with enlargements made from each lens. We agreed that there was no discernible difference in sharpness, but that the highlights were not so glaring with the Sonnar, as well as the color rendition being more pleasing.
Just for fun, we took the enlargements around to the club members, and about 8 out of 10 (if I remember correctly) picked the Sonnar print as the more pleasing image in all respects.
Now, remember that this was a non-multi-coated lens. So, I don't know if the multi-coated Sonnar would be "better". I frankly don't think so. I'm guessing this because I've not seen any difference in other lenses wherein the "MC or Not" made a difference. Of course, it's all subjective.
I'm not familiar with the Olympus OM 300/4.5, so if I was trying to weed out in the above situation, I think I would narrow it down to the Sonnar Olympic and the Olympus.
Well, at least I didn't straddle the fence! And, I have this sort of hunch that in terms of sharpness, there may be hardly any differences between all four of them, so I would look at tonality and bokeh and overall "pleasantness" of the lens in my comparison. The Sonnar is heavy, but I personally like the heavyweight lenses as they somehow give me confidence that I'm using a lot of fine glass and heavy metallurgy in the lens.
In my opinion, picking a lens out of a fantastic and eclectic group like that is an exercise in "gut" feelings. I should be so lucky as to have to choose! |
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Tricky the Nikon 300mm ED-IF's generally do well on ebay (I keep getting outbid! although I've missed a couple that went for less than my ?70 limit...). What I really want is the non-IF ED version but they're rarer than hen's teeth. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Olympus OM 300mm f4.5 sell or not to sell |
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Orio wrote:
Laurence wrote: |
I think I would narrow it down to the Sonnar Olympic and the Olympus. |
You don't like Olympia?
I think that Attila will sell his car before than his Olympic Sonnar
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Still not smarter many thanks for your comments! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: Olympus OM 300mm f4.5 sell or not to sell |
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Laurence wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Laurence wrote: |
I think I would narrow it down to the Sonnar Olympic and the Olympus. |
You don't like Olympia?
I think that Attila will sell his car before than his Olympic Sonnar
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Haha! No, I meant that the ones to compare to KEEP would be the Olympic Sonnar and the Olympus...I can fully understand his fervent, benevolent relationship with the Sonnar! |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Richard-D
I have a very beat up 300 ED non IF. It is the only one I ever saw on fleabay and was improperly marked, so I got it for less than $75
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
patrickh wrote: |
Richard-D
I have a very beat up 300 ED non IF. It is the only one I ever saw on fleabay and was improperly marked, so I got it for less than $75
patrickh |
I'm not jealous honest
Rumoured to be the best of the 300 4.5's from several sources, and supposedly works well with teleconverters... |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I will try to post a sample
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
more into gallery too Patrick _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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