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EdixaMat A.Schacht Ulm Travenar 2.8/90mm Portrait-Lens
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:52 am    Post subject: EdixaMat A.Schacht Ulm Travenar 2.8/90mm Portrait-Lens Reply with quote

Here is another old gem from 1962/63 from germany for you

The A.Schacht Ulm Travenar 2.8/90mm, developed by L.Bertele, was seen first on the market in 1962/63 (Information from I-Net)

A. Schacht did work for CZJ from 1913-1919. From 1919-1926 for ICA AG, later Zeiss Ikon AG until 1939. 1939-1946 he worked for Steinheil Munich.

In 1948 he founded his own company. Lens building ended in 1970.

This is the lens... with some very interesting details.
The lens was a gift from a good old friend of mine.
Should be a Sonnar type (sorry, no scheme found)
It has the old fashioned "Zebra-look" i love sometimes.. Very Happy





One of the impressive details is the 16 blade aperture... for an ideal circular of highlights in the bokeh.



Another very impressive detail is the mechanical construction.
There is a tension ring for opening the aperture and an extra wire release connector on the lens for closing the aperture at the shot.



The lens is nearly uncoated. A light blue shimmer was removed by myself because the lens has some problems behind the front element. Now its clean but has some small scratches from the cleaning.

No worries about that.. the lens does a fantastic job..

@ f2.8, EOS 5D MKII



And a crop out of it, showing the focuspoint..




Streetlife at 2.8...



and a crop ... Shocked



The Travenar has a very nice Bokeh and a near perfect colorendering.
With the 16 blades the transient from fore- to background is warm colored an smooth, best of all lenses i have..

@f5.6, EOS 5D MK II, nearfield







Very saturated colors..



and a lovely bokeh..






A real nice lens in M42 Mount... highly recommanded.

Cheers
Henry


Last edited by hinnerker on Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:47 am; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry, this is an amazing piece of glass!


PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, what a fantastic old lens with lovely bokeh! Thanks for sharing Smile


PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Superb photos, thank you for sharing them. This lens is really outstanding and the bokeh is wonderfully smooth.

Cheers!

Abbazz


PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good when stopped down a bit. Plenty of saturation.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh my! i am smitten! thanks henry!


PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing lens! Thanks for the samples Henry!
Must be superb for portraits too.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indianadinos showed the lens already here http://forum.mflenses.com/new-lens-on-the-block-schacht-travenar-90-2-8-t14210,highlight,travenar.html
...
and I presented (one of) the predecessor(s), the Travenar 2.8/85 in Praktina mount just here: http://forum.mflenses.com/schacht-muenchen-travenar-2-8-85-praktina-bayonet-t19964,highlight,travenar.html

I want to add some new shots:



Sharp even wide open, the 85 Travenar lens is from the early 50s but has a very good coating, a red


PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kram wrote:
Amazing lens! Thanks for the samples Henry!
Must be superb for portraits too.


Yes, this pics are from a prearrangement with my wife for a modell shooting with her girlfriends..




And outside, some days ago..



Cheers
Henry


PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goodness gracious, a fine combination ...


PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small correction.. after searching some informations, it seems to be an
Ernostar type lens and not a Sonnar type...



Cheers
Henry


PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great shots using a great lens indeed!
You model is pretty one btw. Wink Wink


PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw. the lens design is very similar to the (rare) Enna 2.8/90mm,
also a very fine performer!


PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok - as I now can believe that this Travenar is an Ernostar type the pictures become even better. Confused






PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stunning quality ! Shocked


PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Travenar-Design by Ludwig Bertele could be called a "simplified Tele-Sonnar" design and can be found in the CZJ 4/135 and 3.5/135 as well. Classic Sonnar should have "three cemented lenses".



PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This 2.8/90 looks really good. Anyone know if the 4/90 Travenar is the same design?


PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a Travegar 100 / 3.3 which can be razor sharp. It has possibly the same multi bladed aperture and wonderful bokeh. But it's a lens that sometimes fails me, and I don't know why. I should use it more often and see if I can get results like this. This 90mm does look very impressive.


PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:40 pm    Post subject: thewes says 6 element ? Reply with quote

I vaguely recall that the Alpa book by Lothar Thewes states that the Schacht 2,8`90 was a 6-element design- I will try to dig up the book as well as the lens & post results.

p.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the later version of this beautiful lens with only 6 diaphragm blades .
It's a beautiful lens, very sharp and the colours are fantastic. The only slight issue for me is purple fringing which can be quite strong wideopen.
This is at 4 with an extension tube:


PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow Paul, beautiful image!
Now I want that lens!


PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just won one of these, the older 16L version, cant wait to try it Wink


PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am also waiting for a parcel with 16L version Smile


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.5 hours left:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-A-Schacht-Ulm-90mm-1-2-8-Travenar-R-Edixa-Mat-M42-Pentax-Leica-Screw-Mount-/261746010072?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf14727d8