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recommend a tessar formula m42 normal lens, please ...

 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: recommend a tessar formula m42 normal lens, please ... Reply with quote

... for my spotmatic. any that do not cost arm AND leg?

my super takumar 55/2 does not have the tessar touch, even wide open. too contrasty, methinks:


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Tessar is not a low contrast lens per se.
It depends on the coating.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For cheap+quality get one from the 1950s , CZJ 2.8/50 or CZJ 3.5/50 .
Since you don't what them to bee too contrasty try to avoid the red T ones ...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alu T-tessars aren't much contrasty...

Anyway, tessars formula was developed as high-contrasty sharp lens. It has only 4 inner air/glass surfaces, so multi-coated tessars are the most contrasty lenses lenses ever made. I like S-M-C Macro Takumar 50/4 - tessar formula + MC.

But if you need something with not so high contrast, try alu tessars 50/2.8 or meyer primotars. They are not expensive and not too contrasty. Even "better" would be uncoated pre-war tessars.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, so i am not asking the proper question. if not tessar formula, what? i am looking for a normal "portrait" lens? how about my helios 44-2 wide open?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nox put it right, Meyer lenses are usually low-medium contrast, good quality, and relatively affordable (although recently some of them raised a lot in price).
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For lower contrast, I go to my older lenses. The E.Ludwig Meritar triplet is good for that, but may not be pleasing wide open.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fish4570: here's an example taken by my pre-war uncoated Tessar 135/4.5 (the same RAW, 4 different options)...




if you search for fast 50mm lens with not so high contrast, you could be happy with Meyer Primoplan 58/1.9
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice, no-x ...
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