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electricl
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 Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject: Mount ID CZ Tessar 80 2.8, again... |
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I have some better pictures of the lens this time so hopefully someone will know what mount it is.
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Orio
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like Exakta mount to me.
There isn't much choice anyway. It could be either Exakta 35mm or Pentacon 6/Exakta66 medium format mount.
I think these are the only two bayonet mounts this lens was ever produced with.
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Sevo
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Must be Exakta, given the locking pin on the flange below the bayonet. P6 is breech-locking with a register pin above the bayonet.
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electricl
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Orio wrote: | Looks like Exakta mount to me.
There isn't much choice anyway. It could be either Exakta 35mm or Pentacon 6/Exakta66 medium format mount.
I think these are the only two bayonet mounts this lens was ever produced with. |
I tried an exakta 66 adapter but it was too big. I have an Exakta EF adapter but it will not fit...I'm going crazy trying to figure out what mount this is 
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Yashica 28mm F2.8 ML -- 50mm ML F2.0 -- 35mm ML F2.8 -- 24mm F2.8 ML -- Yashica 50mm 1.4 ML -- Yashinon DX 50mm F2.0
Asahi S M C Takumar 50mm 2.0 -- SMC Takumar 50 1.4
CZJ 135mm F3.5 "Zebra" -- CZ Tessar 80mm F2.8 -- CZJ Pancolar 50mm F1.8 -- CZ 50mm Planar F1.7 Contax -- CZ 85mm 1.4 Planar Contax -- CZ Sonnar 180mm F2.8 Contax
Silver Helios-44 58mm m39 -- Helios 44-2 m42 58mm F2 -- Helios 44M-7 58mm F2
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| electricl wrote: | | Orio wrote: | Looks like Exakta mount to me.
There isn't much choice anyway. It could be either Exakta 35mm or Pentacon 6/Exakta66 medium format mount.
I think these are the only two bayonet mounts this lens was ever produced with. |
I tried a exakta 66 adapter but it was too big. I have a Exakta EF adapter but it will not fit...I'm going crazy trying to figure out what mount this is |
Can you please elaborate on that? Are the tabs of the bayonet on the lens the same shape and size as those on a regular 24x36 Exakta mount?
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ManualFocus-G
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Strange, looks like Exakta to me. Only other options would be M42 or Praktina, but doesn't look like either of those.
I read somewhere that some were made in Contax RF mount and moutns for Hasselblad...but I know nothing about these mounts.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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I think it looks more like the Praktina fitting than anything else ...
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electricl
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Spotmatic wrote: | | electricl wrote: | | Orio wrote: | Looks like Exakta mount to me.
There isn't much choice anyway. It could be either Exakta 35mm or Pentacon 6/Exakta66 medium format mount.
I think these are the only two bayonet mounts this lens was ever produced with. |
I tried a exakta 66 adapter but it was too big. I have a Exakta EF adapter but it will not fit...I'm going crazy trying to figure out what mount this is |
Can you please elaborate on that? Are the tabs of the bayonet on the lens the same shape and size as those on a regular 24x36 Exakta mount? |
I have no idea, this is the only lens with this mount I own. I bought an Exakta EF adapter but the lens will not fit in the adapter, the hole in the adapter is too small for the lens bayonet.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Praktina was breech-lock as well, and looks like a downscaled P6 mount - there is no locking pin on this lens. Besides, the CZJ 80/2.8 for Praktina was a Biometar, not a Tessar. Pic of a Praktina lens rear: Click here to see on Ebay.de
A Topcon adapter might not fit Exakta lenses - Topcon is Exakta derived, but they later added in-mount aperture automation and offset the mount by 120°. Even though all my Exakta lenses fit my Topcon, it might be that later Topcons were more significantly different, and besides, it would not be the first adapter to break legacy compatibility.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Not Exakta for sure, Praktina, Pentina .... study these mounts.
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electricl
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Is it worth using this lens on my 7D? I mean is it good or should I leave it to the collectors rather than use it? It's been sitting for too long without a job...hehe
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Asahi S M C Takumar 50mm 2.0 -- SMC Takumar 50 1.4
CZJ 135mm F3.5 "Zebra" -- CZ Tessar 80mm F2.8 -- CZJ Pancolar 50mm F1.8 -- CZ 50mm Planar F1.7 Contax -- CZ 85mm 1.4 Planar Contax -- CZ Sonnar 180mm F2.8 Contax
Silver Helios-44 58mm m39 -- Helios 44-2 m42 58mm F2 -- Helios 44M-7 58mm F2
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Sevo
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | Not Exakta for sure, Praktina, Pentina .... study these mounts. |
Pentina was a leaf shutter system, with a very peculiar mount and only four or five lenses in a zebra fitting. Scroll down for a close-up of the mount: Click here to see on Ebay.de
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blaahhi
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, this could be Exakta Real mount? Looks kinda similar.
Although I don't know if this lens was ever directly available in that mount. Some Schneiders and Schachts were, though...
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