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kl122002




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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:21 am    Post subject: Culminar = tessar? Reply with quote

Just won a Steinheil Culminar 85mm f/2.8 and shipping on its way. But the tracking number failed to track the item.
Someone told me the Culminar is having an identical formula of tessar 85mm f/2.8, is that true?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea, but good lens that for sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently Steinheil called several formulas "Culminars";

One type is a Tessar, another is a reversed Tessar, and there could easily be something else as well, who knows.

For what its worth, my 4.5/135 Steinheil Culminar is a Tessar.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So... who have the old steinheil catalog? It might help Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kelly Flanigan wrote:
Hi Raid; here the old dinky Steinheil Culminar 85mm/2.8 is used sometimes on Russian and Leica too. It is a tessar formula; 4 elements in 3 groups.


http://photo.net/leica-rangefinders-forum/00GPgu
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a book and stated Culminar should be a modified tessar format.

A hisotry of Photographic Lens (Rudolf Kingslake) p. 89 stated : " A few designers have turned the lens around so that the cemented doublet comes in front and the separated elements behind."
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From A Lens Collector's Vade Mecum:

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"Culminar VL f2.8/85mm No597,292; ... Triplar for Contax fit"


and

Quote:
"Culminar f2.8 85mm This is fairly common in UK for M39x26 (Ste028).It was seen at Nr59729x and
noted at No960,78x. A note in Modern Photo 02/1968 p45 describes it as 'softish',... and 'a very second
grade... optic'. They note it would be useful for portraits and that the Steinheil Quin... series were
first grade."
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kl122002 wrote:
I got a book and stated Culminar should be a modified tessar format.

A hisotry of Photographic Lens (Rudolf Kingslake) p. 89 stated : " A few designers have turned the lens around so that the cemented doublet comes in front and the separated elements behind."

That would be Petzvals Orthoscope

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 85 Culminar is a nice lens but prone to flare. You should try to find a fitting hood (which is not easy).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Lucispictor , this lens is prone to huge flare, and there is no filter thread on it . DIY sunshade is a good way here, and a cylindrical one of 50mm (2") would be perfect.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no-X wrote:

http://www.abload.de/img/lens_scheme_tri_v5ev1i.png


Can you make a simplified version if one wants a tattoo out of it onto right arm. And then gaussians to the left ..
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How? Sad Wouldn't it be easier to use your back? Smile
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