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kl122002

Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 38
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:21 am Post subject: Culminar = tessar? |
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Just won a Steinheil Culminar 85mm f/2.8 and shipping on its way. But the tracking number failed to track the item.
Someone told me the Culminar is having an identical formula of tessar 85mm f/2.8, is that true?
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Attila


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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:04 am Post subject: |
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No idea, but good lens that for sure. _________________
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luisalegria


Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 2484 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Apparently Steinheil called several formulas "Culminars";
One type is a Tessar, another is a reversed Tessar, and there could easily be something else as well, who knows.
For what its worth, my 4.5/135 Steinheil Culminar is a Tessar. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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kl122002

Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 38
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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So... who have the old steinheil catalog? It might help  |
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no-X


Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2360 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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kl122002

Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 38
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:57 am Post subject: |
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I got a book and stated Culminar should be a modified tessar format.
A hisotry of Photographic Lens (Rudolf Kingslake) p. 89 stated : " A few designers have turned the lens around so that the cemented doublet comes in front and the separated elements behind." |
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dof


Joined: 04 Feb 2009 Posts: 159 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:13 am Post subject: |
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From A Lens Collector's Vade Mecum:
| Quote: | | "Culminar VL f2.8/85mm No597,292; ... Triplar for Contax fit" |
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| Quote: | "Culminar f2.8 85mm This is fairly common in UK for M39x26 (Ste028).It was seen at Nr59729x and
noted at No960,78x. A note in Modern Photo 02/1968 p45 describes it as 'softish',... and 'a very second
grade... optic'. They note it would be useful for portraits and that the Steinheil Quin... series were
first grade." |
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no-X


Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2360 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| kl122002 wrote: | I got a book and stated Culminar should be a modified tessar format.
A hisotry of Photographic Lens (Rudolf Kingslake) p. 89 stated : " A few designers have turned the lens around so that the cemented doublet comes in front and the separated elements behind." |
That would be Petzvals Orthoscope
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LucisPictor


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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:51 am Post subject: |
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The 85 Culminar is a nice lens but prone to flare. You should try to find a fitting hood (which is not easy). _________________ Cheers, Carsten |"KAPCTEH" | "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?
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Helios

Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 490 Location: East of France
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| I agree with Lucispictor , this lens is prone to huge flare, and there is no filter thread on it . DIY sunshade is a good way here, and a cylindrical one of 50mm (2") would be perfect. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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