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Ingo
Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 71 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135 |
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Ingo wrote:
Yesterday I´ve purchased this lens from my local dealer. It´s in perfect shape, with no scratches or anything else on the body.
This lens is sharp wide open, equal to the later f3.5 versions. But it´s seems to me, that bokeh is different.
Best regards
Ingo
Here my samples, all f4.
fullsize: http://www.pbase.com/inghar/sonnar_4135
_________________ Sigma SD9, SD14; Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35; CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135, 2.8/180 T; Meyer Optik Trioplan 2.8/100V, Orestor 2.8/100, Pentacon 4/300;
Mamiya Sekor 2.8/35, 1.4/55, 3.5/200; Pentax SMC Takumar 3.5/28, Supertakumar 1.4/50; Tomioka Auto-Tominon 1.4/55; Yashinon DS-M 1.7/50; Helios-40
http://www.pbase.com/inghar
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Sorry Ingo, socks pbase doesn't show the included images.Please use instead of pbase anything else like built-in imageshack hosting. I have a pbase account too and I also can't link properly. _________________ -------------------------------
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Alu finish Sonnar not good as than Zebra or MC , but I have an alu finish Sonnar what is different from yours more earlier that is great lens from every aspects.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/sonnar/carl_zeiss_jena_sonnar_135mm_f4_t_coated/
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/sonnar/sonnar_13_5cm_f4_5/ _________________ -------------------------------
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Hi!
I've also got two Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135, one in silver finish and one "modern" version:
This lens is very good and it used to be my favourite 135mm lens (until I got the Jupiters and the Nikkor)
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Ingo
Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 71 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Ingo wrote:
Hi Attila,
I´ve change the pics to imageshack. That´s my sonnar 135 collection.
Very Happy
Ingo
_________________ Sigma SD9, SD14; Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35; CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135, 2.8/180 T; Meyer Optik Trioplan 2.8/100V, Orestor 2.8/100, Pentacon 4/300;
Mamiya Sekor 2.8/35, 1.4/55, 3.5/200; Pentax SMC Takumar 3.5/28, Supertakumar 1.4/50; Tomioka Auto-Tominon 1.4/55; Yashinon DS-M 1.7/50; Helios-40
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nice collection you have all important ones! I mean zebra and MC. I saw on your website a 180mm Olympic Sonnar ! A very few lens get 5 star mark from me Oly 180 is one of them. I have 5 pcs from this 180mm most of them very , very good but one is laser sharp at wide open. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Ingo
Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 71 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Ingo wrote:
The Zebra is the best one. Also in backlight situations no difference to the MC-version.
The 180 Olympic Sonnar is a very fine lens. It has a shorter focus distance, as the later medium format sonnars. But also visible purple fringing wide open in any situations.
Ingo _________________ Sigma SD9, SD14; Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35; CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135, 2.8/180 T; Meyer Optik Trioplan 2.8/100V, Orestor 2.8/100, Pentacon 4/300;
Mamiya Sekor 2.8/35, 1.4/55, 3.5/200; Pentax SMC Takumar 3.5/28, Supertakumar 1.4/50; Tomioka Auto-Tominon 1.4/55; Yashinon DS-M 1.7/50; Helios-40
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I think also Zebra is the best one, I have no CLA in any situation with my 180mm Olympic Sonnars. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Ingo
Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 71 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Ingo wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I have no CLA in any situation with my 180mm Olympic Sonnars. |
Here is a sample at f2.8 http://www.pbase.com/image/89939650/original
Look at the bottom of the pic. Is this normal?
Ingo _________________ Sigma SD9, SD14; Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35; CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135, 2.8/180 T; Meyer Optik Trioplan 2.8/100V, Orestor 2.8/100, Pentacon 4/300;
Mamiya Sekor 2.8/35, 1.4/55, 3.5/200; Pentax SMC Takumar 3.5/28, Supertakumar 1.4/50; Tomioka Auto-Tominon 1.4/55; Yashinon DS-M 1.7/50; Helios-40
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
No,it's not normal.
#1
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/sonnar/olypic_sonnar180mm/
#2
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/sonnar/carl_zeiss_jena_olympic_sonnar_18cm_f2_8_m42/
#3
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/sonnar/czj_sonnar_180mm_f2_8_balu/
Numbers means my rate order. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Ingo
Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 71 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ingo wrote:
Hmmm, sharpness of my copy is very good. I will try it again in softer light.
Ingo _________________ Sigma SD9, SD14; Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35; CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135, 2.8/180 T; Meyer Optik Trioplan 2.8/100V, Orestor 2.8/100, Pentacon 4/300;
Mamiya Sekor 2.8/35, 1.4/55, 3.5/200; Pentax SMC Takumar 3.5/28, Supertakumar 1.4/50; Tomioka Auto-Tominon 1.4/55; Yashinon DS-M 1.7/50; Helios-40
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
My alu 135 Sonnar is very sharp, in spite of some little internal haze.
Probably without haze it could be even sharper. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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kostja
Joined: 11 Dec 2009 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:36 am Post subject: |
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kostja wrote:
Hello everybody!
I have bought a CZJ Sonnar 135 f4, it looks exactly like the lens on this image:
LucisPictor wrote: |
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and I have this adapter (the left one) (I got it from "gadget infinity".)
It's a big pitty, that I can't focus to inifinity (just up to 30m). I would like to take starfield images with this lense. Anybody knows, how I could adjust it? There seems to be plenty of room for the lense to move more backward.
Kind regards
Konstantin
PS: I don't understand, why the forum won't show the images. I'm sorry! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
kostja wrote: |
Hello everybody!
I have bought a CZJ Sonnar 135 f4, it looks exactly like the lens on this image:
LucisPictor wrote: |
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and I have this adapter (the left one) (I got it from "gadget infinity".)
It's a big pitty, that I can't focus to inifinity (just up to 30m). I would like to take starfield images with this lense. Anybody knows, how I could adjust it? There seems to be plenty of room for the lense to move more backward.
Kind regards
Konstantin
PS: I don't understand, why the forum won't show the images. I'm sorry! |
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Not allowed to post images for new members, from now you able to post. Welcome here! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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ShadowEOS
Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 23 Location: Portugal - Lisbon
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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ShadowEOS wrote:
Hello there,
I have the silver edition! I will make a test to face CZ and Takumar. CZ is only f/4, while Tak is f/3.5, but I really don't know which glass will perform best! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
CZJ is older one made around 1950 don't know which one is better , but they are different that for sure. I like more CZJ lenses in same focal length than Takumars, but this is matter of taste only,both are great lenses. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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