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Irrbloss
Joined: 06 Jul 2011 Posts: 3 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Irrbloss wrote:
Ahhh...well thats good to know. _________________ Civilisation is measured in the amount of commonly owned/mantained/used parts of the society. |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1694 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
#1
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Beautiful chunky cemented elements that give lenses the edge: Pentacon (Meyer) 2.8/135mm and Jupiter 4/200mm.
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
It seems to me both Meyer / Pentacon Orestor 2.8/100mm and 2.8/135mm are still listed as Primoplan designs with wrong scheme.
Both lenses have nearly the same design (135mm in my previous post):
Orestor 2,8/100 by alf sigaro, on Flickr _________________ ---------------------------------
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edri
Joined: 26 Oct 2014 Posts: 315 Location: walking in the air
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:19 am Post subject: |
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edri wrote:
One can find somewhere this pdf? Excellent these previous lists.
no-X wrote: |
Relayer: Done
+ added some other designs: fujinon/unar, elmar, orthoscope, tair, hektor, telyt...
list of triplets, v.5:
PDF: high quality / optimized |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Spotmatic wrote: |
Tremendous work, thank you! I have stored it locally for future reference. |
Here too. Thank you very much for that valuable reference. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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duckrider
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 437 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:28 pm Post subject: spherics adieu! |
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duckrider wrote:
looking at these lens desings for smartphones makes me drunken:
http://bit.ly/1yrwgiM
link comes originally from Zeiss page:
http://blogs.zeiss.com/photo/de/?p=5280
Kind regs
Thomas _________________ T*homas
(from the origin land of Zeiss, an obligation )
Zeiss ZF 3.5/18, 2.8/25, 2.0/35, 2/50macro, 1.4/50, 1.4/85, 2/100macro
Nikon Df, F2AS, F2A, F3/T, FM
ALPA 11Si, Angulon 2,8/35 ; Xenar 1,9/50 ; Tele-Tessar 4/200
Leica R3 SAFARI Safari Lenses 2.8/28 ; 2/50 ; 4/180
Rolleiflex SL 350 , Zeiss 2,8/16 ; 4/18 ; 2,8/25 ; 2,8/35 ; 1,4/35 ; 1,8/50 ; 2,8/85 ; 1,4/85 ; 4/135 ; 4/200
Leica M9-P, Leica M4-2, Tri-Elmar "Wate", Distagon 2,8/21, Biogon 2,8/28, Biogon 2/35, Planar 2/50, Tessar 4/85, M-Elmar 50mm, Summicron 90
Sony alpha 7r & adapters for all lenses above |
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francotirador
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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francotirador wrote:
Does anyone know what optical scheme has the Color Lanthar 50 2.8 of the Voigtlander Vitoret DR?
Thank you very much. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7547 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:50 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
francotirador wrote: |
Does anyone know what optical scheme has the Color Lanthar 50 2.8 of the Voigtlander Vitoret DR?
Thank you very much. |
It is a triplet. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
Expire: 2019-08-28
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:34 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
francotirador wrote: |
Does anyone know what optical scheme has the Color Lanthar 50 2.8 of the Voigtlander Vitoret DR?
Thank you very much. |
It is a triplet. |
Indeed:
_________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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l9magen
Joined: 13 Jul 2011 Posts: 326 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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l9magen wrote:
I stumbled across this today having been looking for the schematics for Rollei Planar 50/1.8 and Schneider Sl-Xenon 50/1.8.
This site is just awesome: wonderful work NoX, and everyone else. Thank you. _________________ Lochlann
Digital Camera: Leica MM246 & M10
RF lenses: Zeiss ZM, assorted Japanese LTMs & Nikkor-S |
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Ernst Dinkla
Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 378
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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Ernst Dinkla wrote:
Maybe a bit too many to add to the "Sonnar Simplified 4 elements" lens diagram but here's a list I made based on diagrams from several sources.
IMHO, it would honor the inventor of the Gundlach Ultrastigmatic more if that design group gets the name "Enhanced Ultrastigmatic" which in fact it is more related to, including the versions with a cemented pair (extra element) at the rear.
Quote from the Vademecum:
Ultrastigmat (1916 ) f1.9 40, 50, 75mm for 35mm movie. The layout is roughly Ernostar-4,
but is more compact and anti-dates it. The Brit. Pat. covers 2 types with different separations to the
glasses 1 and 2, and also considers a cemented pair for glass 4.(Brit. Pat. 187082/1921 to Charles.C. Minor.
This claims coverage of 80°, and may be the first use of the layout and a Landmark (Layout Gun004).
Arco
Colinar 135mm 3.5
Canon
Serenar 135mm 4.0
Canon 135mm 3.5 for rangefinder
Canon R 135mm 3.5 for CanonFlex
Canon FL 135mm 3.5 though a deviation
CZJ or Zeiss Oberkochen
For Contax rangefinder, pre WWII
Sonnar 135mm 4.0
Olympia Sonnar 180mm 2.8 ,early one, not the Flektoscope or SLR version that have 5 elements or more
Sonnar 300mm 4.0
For Hasselblad
Sonnar 135mm 3.5 (1951)
Sonnar 250mm 5.6 (1957)
For Contarex
Sonnar 135mm 4.0
Sonnar 250mm 4.0
For ContaFlex
Sonnar 8cm 2.8 viewer lens
Futura
TeleElor 90mm 5.6
Isco
Tele-Iscaron 135mm 2.8
Tele-Westanar 180mm 4.0
Kyoei Acall
Super Acall 135mm 3.5
KMZ or KOMZ
Jupiter 11 135mm 4.0
Jupiter 37 135mm 3.5
Meyer
Telefogar 90mm 3.5
Orestor 100mm 2.8 extra element at the rear
Nikon
Nikkor 135mm 3.5 rangefindr Q version
Nikkor 250mm 4.0 rangefinder
Nikkor 135mm 3.5 SLR
Nikkor 250mm 4.0 SLR
Rodenstock
Rotelar 135mm 4.5
Schacht Ulm
Travenar 85mm 2.8
Altelar 90mm 2.8
Schneider Kreuznach
Tele-Xenar 75/90mm 3.5
Tele-Xeanr 100mm 2.8 16mm Cine version
Tele-Xenar 135 3.5 (some variations on the theme)
For Alpa
Tele-Xenar 135mm 3.5 (similar)
Steinheil
Quinar 85/100mm 3.5
Culminar 135mm 4.5 ?
Tanaka Kogaku
Tanar 135mm 3.5
Taylor Hobson
Non Distorting Tele
Series V 5"8.0 H.W. Lee 1924! Pat 222,709 ,one element extra at the rear,
8 years after the Gundlach Ultrastigmat patent and in the same period the first Ernostar was developed.
Topcon
Topcor 13.5cm 3.5 but there is also a triplet 135mm 3.5
Auto-Topcor 13.5cm 3.5 _________________ Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst
http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
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Ernst Dinkla
Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 378
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Ernst Dinkla wrote:
Ernst Dinkla wrote: |
Maybe a bit too many to add to the "Sonnar Simplified 4 elements" lens diagram but here's a list I made based on diagrams from several sources.
IMHO, it would honor the inventor of the Gundlach Ultrastigmatic more if that design group gets the name "Enhanced Ultrastigmatic" which in fact it is more related to, including the versions with a cemented pair (extra element) at the rear.
Quote from the Vademecum:
Ultrastigmat (1916 ) f1.9 40, 50, 75mm for 35mm movie. The layout is roughly Ernostar-4,
but is more compact and anti-dates it. The Brit. Pat. covers 2 types with different separations to the
glasses 1 and 2, and also considers a cemented pair for glass 4.(Brit. Pat. 187082/1921 to Charles.C. Minor.
This claims coverage of 80°, and may be the first use of the layout and a Landmark (Layout Gun004).
Arco
Colinar 135mm 3.5
Canon
Serenar 135mm 4.0
Canon 135mm 3.5 for rangefinder
Canon R 135mm 3.5 for CanonFlex
Canon FL 135mm 3.5 though a deviation
CZJ or Zeiss Oberkochen
For Contax rangefinder, pre WWII
Sonnar 135mm 4.0
Olympia Sonnar 180mm 2.8 ,early one, not the Flektoscope or SLR version that have 5 elements or more
Sonnar 300mm 4.0
For Hasselblad
Sonnar 135mm 3.5 (1951)
Sonnar 250mm 5.6 (1957)
For Contarex
Sonnar 135mm 4.0
Sonnar 250mm 4.0
For ContaFlex
Sonnar 8cm 2.8 viewer lens
Futura
TeleElor 90mm 5.6
Isco
Tele-Iscaron 135mm 2.8
Tele-Westanar 180mm 4.0
Kyoei Acall
Super Acall 135mm 3.5
KMZ or KOMZ
Jupiter 11 135mm 4.0
Jupiter 37 135mm 3.5
Meyer
Telefogar 90mm 3.5
Orestor 100mm 2.8 extra element at the rear
Nikon
Nikkor 135mm 3.5 rangefindr Q version
Nikkor 250mm 4.0 rangefinder
Nikkor 135mm 3.5 SLR
Nikkor 250mm 4.0 SLR
Rodenstock
Rotelar 135mm 4.5
Schacht Ulm
Travenar 85mm 2.8
Altelar 90mm 2.8
Schneider Kreuznach
Tele-Xenar 75/90mm 3.5
Tele-Xeanr 100mm 2.8 16mm Cine version
Tele-Xenar 135 3.5 (some variations on the theme)
For Alpa
Tele-Xenar 135mm 3.5 (similar)
Steinheil
Quinar 85/100mm 3.5
Culminar 135mm 4.5 ?
Tanaka Kogaku
Tanar 135mm 3.5
Taylor Hobson
Non Distorting Tele
Series V 5"8.0 H.W. Lee 1924! Pat 222,709 ,one element extra at the rear,
8 years after the Gundlach Ultrastigmat patent and in the same period the first Ernostar was developed.
Topcon
Topcor 13.5cm 3.5 but there is also a triplet 135mm 3.5
Auto-Topcor 13.5cm 3.5 |
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4467990
This discussion on the Hugo Hahn lens designs for Optische Werke Rüdersdorf A.G. (Rüo Optik) lenses
should be considered too. The Soviet Kaleinar has its origins in that work done. All running parallel in time to the early Ernostar
design period if not earlier. _________________ Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst
http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
March 2017 update, 750+ inkjet media white spectral plots |
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16:9
Joined: 04 Apr 2014 Posts: 302 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 7:11 am Post subject: |
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16:9 wrote:
+1 - thanks. It's otherwise hard to find a single place where this fundamental information is gathered. _________________ If it ain't broke, break it. |
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16:9
Joined: 04 Apr 2014 Posts: 302 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 7:13 am Post subject: |
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16:9 wrote:
PM sent. _________________ If it ain't broke, break it. |
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