CZJ Sonnar 4/135 and Triotar 4/135. I understand now !

Olivier · Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 1328 Location: France

I received two new friends today.
I wondered why so many people here talked about CZJ in great words.
Now I know !
I was clearly amazed by the very first picture taken with the Sonnar and this is the first time I have this feeling with a MF lens. Normally, it takes me some shots before I obtain correct pics. Here, the first one was really good.

1- Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135. Serial Number 6307114, so Issue date between 1961-1964 following MF Lenses review.
This is a preset lens. I find strange to have the diaph figures on the under side of the lens. Very good quality.

I created a gallery for it. You can see it here

2/Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 4/135. Serial Number 3124865, so Issue date between 1945-1949 Shocked

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The diaph ring is totally free. No preset.
It is complete with its front and rear caps, the rear one being an alu screw one.

A small gallery (going to grow) :
Here
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Olivier
DSLR : Canon EOS 5D Mark II - EOS 40D
SLR : Canon EOS 500N - ZENITH EM - Fujica ST-701
M42 Lenses : Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 4/20 - Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.8/35 - Aus Jena Tessar 2.8/50 - Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 1Q 4/135 - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar T 4/13,5 * Fujinon 1.8/55 * Hanimar 2.8/135 * Helios-40 1.5/85 - Helios 44M 2/58 * Industar-61 L/Z-MC 2.8/50 macro * Jupiter-9 2/85 - Jupiter-37A 3.5/135 - Jupiter-21M 4/200 * Meyer Optik Görlitz Trioplan 2.8/100 - Meyer Optik Görlitz Orestegor 4/200 * MIR-1B 2.8/37 * Pentacon 2.8/29 - Pentacon 1.8/50 - Pentacon 2.8/135 * Piesker Picon 2.8/135 * Prinzflex 2.8/135 - Prinzflex 3.5/200 * Soligor 2.8/35 - Soligor 2.8/135 - Soligor 3.5/200 - Soligor 4.5/250 - Soligor 6.3/400 * Steinheil München Quinar 2.8/135 * Tair-11A 2.8/135 - Tair-3 Grand Prix Brussels 1958 4.5/300 - Tair-3 4.5/300A * Super Takumar 1.8/55 * Tamron AD2 (03A) 3.8-4/80-210 - Tamron AD2 (01A) SP 2.8-3.8/35-80mm * Will. Wetzlar Vastar V 2.8/50 * Yashinon 4.5/70-230mm * Zenitar-M MC 2.8/16 Fisheye + Zenit Extension Tubes Set - extender TK-2M
Nikon Mount : Angenieux 2.5-3.3/35-70mm - Angenieux 3.5/70-210mm
P6 Mount : CZJ Flektogon 4/50 - CZJ 1Q Sonnar 2.8/180 - CZJ MC Sonnar 4/300 * Volna-3 2.8/80
PK Mount : MC Cosinon-W 2.8/28 * Tokina 2.8/35-70
EOS AF Lenses : Canon EF 1.8/50 II - EF 2.8/100 USM Macro - EFS 4-5.6/17-85 IS USM - EF 4/70-200 L IS USM * Sigma 4-5.6/70-300 DG Macro - Tamron 2.8/28-75 + Extender Kenko Pro 300 1.4x

indianadinos · Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 631 Location: Toulouse, France

Classic

Zeiss quality ... The Triotar is simply stunning ... Should really try to put my hands on one of these ...
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Takumar: 24/3.5, 28/3.5, 35/2, 35/3.5, 50/1.4, 55/1.8, 85/1.8, 105/2.8, 135/3.5, 150/4, 200/4
Pentax-K: M28/2.8, K28/3.5, M50/1.4, A50/1.7, M50/4 Macro, K85/1.8, K105/2.8, K135/2.5, M200/4, M70-150/4
Zeiss: Flektogon 20/2.8, 20/4, 35/2.4, 35/2.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Biotar 58/2, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer: Primagon 35/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Trioplan 100/2.8, Orestor 100/2.8, Orestor 135/2.8
Schacht/Steinheil: Travenar 90/2.8, Travenon 135/4.5, Quinar 135/2.8, Quinar 135/3.5
Russian: MIR 37B, Industar 50/3.5, Helios 44M, Jupiter 37A
P6: Flektogon 50/4, Biometar 80/2.8, Orestor 300/4
Nikkor: Nikkor-O 35/2, Micro 55/3.5, Nikkor-Q 135/2.8
Fuji: EBC 28/3.5, EBC 55/3.5 Macro, EBC 135/2.5
Misc Lenses: Kiron 105/2.8 Macro, Tamron SP90/2.5
... and a few other Vivitar, Tamron, Sigma and Soligor lenses ...

Olivier · Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 1328 Location: France

Rolf · Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject:

Hallo Olivier,

welcome to the club. These are really nice lenses. Your Triotar is approx. 6-7 years older than mine. It was my first MF lens.

http://www.foto-bochum.net/Historical-Equipment/Lens-Carl-Zeiss-Jena-Triotar/7934642_q7gdE#514908981_Gjg9r

I like this type of lenses too and your pics shows respectable results.

Greetings to the channel !
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Rolf

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Olivier · Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 1328 Location: France

Olivier · Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 1328 Location: France

Rolf · Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject:

Bitte Olivier !

I love the pic with the table and the chair. But the others too, specially the flowers with the raindrops.

Bonne nuit.
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Olivier · Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 1328 Location: France

Danke Rolf.
This was a very tiny rain wich made many little drops and I found them very preety. I also took some pics with AF lens (70-200 F4 L).

Gute Nacht.
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Olivier
DSLR : Canon EOS 5D Mark II - EOS 40D
SLR : Canon EOS 500N - ZENITH EM - Fujica ST-701
M42 Lenses : Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 4/20 - Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.8/35 - Aus Jena Tessar 2.8/50 - Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 1Q 4/135 - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar T 4/13,5 * Fujinon 1.8/55 * Hanimar 2.8/135 * Helios-40 1.5/85 - Helios 44M 2/58 * Industar-61 L/Z-MC 2.8/50 macro * Jupiter-9 2/85 - Jupiter-37A 3.5/135 - Jupiter-21M 4/200 * Meyer Optik Görlitz Trioplan 2.8/100 - Meyer Optik Görlitz Orestegor 4/200 * MIR-1B 2.8/37 * Pentacon 2.8/29 - Pentacon 1.8/50 - Pentacon 2.8/135 * Piesker Picon 2.8/135 * Prinzflex 2.8/135 - Prinzflex 3.5/200 * Soligor 2.8/35 - Soligor 2.8/135 - Soligor 3.5/200 - Soligor 4.5/250 - Soligor 6.3/400 * Steinheil München Quinar 2.8/135 * Tair-11A 2.8/135 - Tair-3 Grand Prix Brussels 1958 4.5/300 - Tair-3 4.5/300A * Super Takumar 1.8/55 * Tamron AD2 (03A) 3.8-4/80-210 - Tamron AD2 (01A) SP 2.8-3.8/35-80mm * Will. Wetzlar Vastar V 2.8/50 * Yashinon 4.5/70-230mm * Zenitar-M MC 2.8/16 Fisheye + Zenit Extension Tubes Set - extender TK-2M
Nikon Mount : Angenieux 2.5-3.3/35-70mm - Angenieux 3.5/70-210mm
P6 Mount : CZJ Flektogon 4/50 - CZJ 1Q Sonnar 2.8/180 - CZJ MC Sonnar 4/300 * Volna-3 2.8/80
PK Mount : MC Cosinon-W 2.8/28 * Tokina 2.8/35-70
EOS AF Lenses : Canon EF 1.8/50 II - EF 2.8/100 USM Macro - EFS 4-5.6/17-85 IS USM - EF 4/70-200 L IS USM * Sigma 4-5.6/70-300 DG Macro - Tamron 2.8/28-75 + Extender Kenko Pro 300 1.4x

exaklaus

Olivier · Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 1328 Location: France

Klaus.
Would you know how to fix it ?
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Olivier
DSLR : Canon EOS 5D Mark II - EOS 40D
SLR : Canon EOS 500N - ZENITH EM - Fujica ST-701
M42 Lenses : Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 4/20 - Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.8/35 - Aus Jena Tessar 2.8/50 - Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 1Q 4/135 - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar T 4/13,5 * Fujinon 1.8/55 * Hanimar 2.8/135 * Helios-40 1.5/85 - Helios 44M 2/58 * Industar-61 L/Z-MC 2.8/50 macro * Jupiter-9 2/85 - Jupiter-37A 3.5/135 - Jupiter-21M 4/200 * Meyer Optik Görlitz Trioplan 2.8/100 - Meyer Optik Görlitz Orestegor 4/200 * MIR-1B 2.8/37 * Pentacon 2.8/29 - Pentacon 1.8/50 - Pentacon 2.8/135 * Piesker Picon 2.8/135 * Prinzflex 2.8/135 - Prinzflex 3.5/200 * Soligor 2.8/35 - Soligor 2.8/135 - Soligor 3.5/200 - Soligor 4.5/250 - Soligor 6.3/400 * Steinheil München Quinar 2.8/135 * Tair-11A 2.8/135 - Tair-3 Grand Prix Brussels 1958 4.5/300 - Tair-3 4.5/300A * Super Takumar 1.8/55 * Tamron AD2 (03A) 3.8-4/80-210 - Tamron AD2 (01A) SP 2.8-3.8/35-80mm * Will. Wetzlar Vastar V 2.8/50 * Yashinon 4.5/70-230mm * Zenitar-M MC 2.8/16 Fisheye + Zenit Extension Tubes Set - extender TK-2M
Nikon Mount : Angenieux 2.5-3.3/35-70mm - Angenieux 3.5/70-210mm
P6 Mount : CZJ Flektogon 4/50 - CZJ 1Q Sonnar 2.8/180 - CZJ MC Sonnar 4/300 * Volna-3 2.8/80
PK Mount : MC Cosinon-W 2.8/28 * Tokina 2.8/35-70
EOS AF Lenses : Canon EF 1.8/50 II - EF 2.8/100 USM Macro - EFS 4-5.6/17-85 IS USM - EF 4/70-200 L IS USM * Sigma 4-5.6/70-300 DG Macro - Tamron 2.8/28-75 + Extender Kenko Pro 300 1.4x

exaklaus · Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:19 am Post subject:

Olivier, never opened this kind of lens. So I do not know.

Klaus
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Mamiya-Sekor 1:1,9/80
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Spotmatic · Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 2506 Location: Netherlands

Spotmatic · Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 2506 Location: Netherlands

Oh yes, now I remember! Do you see the slotted tube in the back? Unscrew this and the whole optical block comes off at the front (only the focusing helicoid stays). Then you should be able to put the optical block back in the correct position.
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My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - S-M-C Takumar 85mm f/1.8 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Komura 85mm f/1.4 - Accura Supertel Tc 1:1.9 f=85mm - Jupiter-9 2/85 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 75mm f/1.5 Biotar - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical - Enna München Ennalyt 85mm f/1.5 - Olympus Zuiko Auto-T MC 85mm f/2

exaklaus · Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:53 am Post subject:

Glad you know how to fix that!

Klaus
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Canon 5D II, Sigma SD14 converted to Leica-R mount
Leitz Elmarit-R 1:2,8/19, PA-Curtagon 1:4/35, Summicron 2/50, Summilux-R 1:1,4/50, Macro-Elmarit-R 1:2,8/60, Apo-Telyt-R 1:3,4/180 Olympus OM 1:1,2/55, 1:2/85
Mamiya-Sekor 1:1,9/80
Leica R4s mod.2
www.autoselbstfotografie.de

Olivier · Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 1328 Location: France