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Catadioptrics : Tamron 350/500
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Catadioptrics : Tamron 350/500 Reply with quote

Shots on tripod, I tried to habe the same reproduction ratio to compare the two lens. They finally seem very close in performance on my 6 Mpix sensor, but the 350 offers more blur in out of focus areas Smile

Tamron 500/8


Tamron 350/5.6


PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see no difference both are great lens.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess you like dognuts? Very good with horseradish cream, smoked salmon
and a few thinly sliced red onions... yummy for brunch. But for photography???


PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miror lenses' bokeh is hard to handle to obtain a good looking bokeh, but I love them. I only use the 350/5.6, the 500/8 is a bit too dark. Maybe I'll sell it when I'll get the Takumar 500/4.5, but I wont sell my 350/5.6 Razz


PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I was just joking of course. Cat lenses have their right to be here and when used wisely, they are able to produce fantastic results. Our member Shinishiro-San (known from flickr) is a master (for me) of that lens type...have a look here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/crazyshin/tags/reflexnikkor500mmf8new/ here some of his works using a 8/500mm Reflex Nikkor:









... and I'm not surprised that he is no longer active here ...


PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow! great donuts samples Shocked


PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here another example for a very nice cat lens..

a very compact and excellent performer
Weight only 750g !!!

Its very nice looking on a 5D... very compact, nice for handheld shots, no need for a tripod collar... i like this very fine lens..


Leica MR Telyt on a EOS 5D.. all shown shots handheld !



very decent donuts..



Beautiful color reendering.. and contrast..!







Sharp as a knife..



Very rare and expensiv, but my favorite catadiop.. Maybe the best..

greetz
Hinnerker


PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks very sharp indeed!


PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm...., I´m not the typical bokeh eater, but these pin heads are beautyful. I simply love them.

I´m thinking of buying something like this, but do not know what to grab for Nikon except of Nikkors. Any experience with Tokina 500 f8?


PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked Superb indeed!


PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Zeiss Contax Mirotar Reflex lenses (4.5/500mm and 5.6/1000mm) are supposed to be the best existing catadioptric lenses.

I had the Zeiss Jena 1000mm version once, quite a monster w. some 20 Kilos weight, excellent sharpness but just too akward to handle, so I sold it.


PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sigma 600 f/8 is also a respectable performer. I used to own one in Canon FD mount, but sold it when I switched to Nikon. Wish I still had it. The donut bokeh are just a fact of life when shooting with a mirror. But for distant subjects, it's rarely an issue:

Sigma 600/8, Kodachrome 64.


Michael


PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here another performer

Olympus Zuiko Reflex 8/500



Edit (found thisin my archive) - same flower with
Leitz MR-Telyt-R 8/500



PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:59 am    Post subject: MC 3M-5CA Reply with quote

A Soviet lightweight MC 3M-5CA 500mm f/8:

First a full image - this chopper was going around as if it were lost:



And this is 1:1 (14+MP crop camera) - seems like I was right when I speculated that they were lost as the co-pilot is reading a map - or maybe a daily newspaper Wink



PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm verry happy with my 3M-5A. Recently purchased over EBAY from Russia. Arrived in Mint condition with filters and case.


PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Impressive shots. I'm on the lookout for a 350 F5.6 Tamron, but they go for crazy money now. If I wasn't in the UK, I'd go for an F8, but it's always too dark here.


PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is from my Tamy 500.



PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[url]=http://twapsi.blogspot.com/2009/05/tamron-sp-500mm-f8-55b-mirror-lens.htmlHere [/url]and here my views on the 500mm.
Its a really fine lens.

The 350mm is more expensive only due to its rarity I think.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edumad wrote:
The 350mm is more expensive only due to its rarity I think.

The higher price of the 350mm F/5.6 is indeed because this lens is rarer but I think it's also because on a crop format DSLR it's much more useful than a 500mm lens with an F/8 aperture. 350mm is already quite a long focal on an APS-C DSLR and F/5.6 (which is in fact F/8 when light losses are taken into account) is already not such a fast aperture. I guess nowadays the 350/5.6 lens is much more useful than the 500/8 (which is in fact a 500/11), hence the higher demand.

Cheers!

Abbazz


PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Cormorant with Tamron 350/5.6 on Nikon D300. Handheld. Cropped about 50%.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once had both Tammys - and although I really liked their optical performance I sold them.
For me on an aps-dslr 300mm is long enough (Tamron 5.6/300 is my favourite lens there).

As for the good or best mirror lenses:
The german Color Foto made some tests of them and found the Zeiss to be the best but Canon (FD !) and Minolta (MD !) to be close behind. (If I remember correctly they had no Leica lens in this race....)

I remember some other very good mirror lenses being tested - and a very very good but pretty rare one was the Vivitar Ser. 1 4.5/450 mm.
The Sigma 600mm got different tests results but I think they changed the optical formula.