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Olivier
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: Trioplan 100mm at different apertures |
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Olivier wrote:
Just some samples. Sorry for the out of artistic interest of these shots...
The goal is to show the great quality of this venerable lens at other apertures than f2.8 or f4.
1- at f2.8
2- at f8
3- at f22
Then 2 others :
4- at f2.8 : wild bokey
5-at f8 : sharp with more reasonable bokey
That's a great lens !
and I like its 2 sides : the wild and the wise. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Trioplan 100mm at different apertures |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
That's a great lens !
and I like its 2 sides : the wild and the wise. |
Thanks for posting! But I would call it the "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" lens. Because it has such a split personality! _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Trioplan 100mm at different apertures |
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Olivier wrote:
Spotmatic wrote: |
Olivier wrote: |
That's a great lens !
and I like its 2 sides : the wild and the wise. |
Thanks for posting! But I would call it the "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" lens. Because it has such a split personality! |
Totally right, Spotmatic ! _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 803 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
Thanks for showing the Jekyll and Hyde side of the lens
There is a Trioplanomania in the last days. I couldn't resist to bid on a M42 Trioplan 100 and I won the auction for a little bit more than 16 Euros.
Click here to see on Ebay.de _________________
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Canon FD to EOS converted: FD 1,4/24 asph, FD 2,8/300 L
Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
Lenses for sale, please contact via PM: None at the moment
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
MF-addicted wrote: |
I won the auction for a little bit more than 16 Euros.
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now that is a SUPER bargain ! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6549 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:57 am Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
MF-addicted wrote: |
Thanks for showing the Jekyll and Hyde side of the lens
There is a Trioplanomania in the last days. I couldn't resist to bid on a M42 Trioplan 100 and I won the auction for a little bit more than 16 Euros.
Click here to see on Ebay.de |
Heh. That's even scruffier than mine
If mine's any guide though, you might find it's an excellent user lens and all the other buyers were put off by the appearance. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 803 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:22 am Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
Farside wrote: |
Heh. That's even scruffier than mine
If mine's any guide though, you might find it's an excellent user lens and all the other buyers were put off by the appearance. |
That is like me looking in the mirror every morning and I although make excellent use of myself.
Seriously, I never had a severe damaged lens. If it was an old one with fungus, it is easy to maintain and a triplet is not like an 18 element zoom lens.
I placed the bid some time before and was willing to go up to 30 Euros, but the ending time was around 5 p.m. local time (most people are on their way from work to home).
... and I was infected with the Trioplanomania like swine flu. _________________
EOS 5D MK II, EOS 5D Classic, EOS 400D --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Canon FD to EOS converted: FD 1,4/24 asph, FD 2,8/300 L
Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
I was quite surprised too by its quality at f22. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:41 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
MF-addicted wrote: |
There is a Trioplanomania in the last days. |
That's the right word...
Click here to see on Ebay
$316, 2.5 days till the end... _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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Seele
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 741 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Seele wrote:
The unfortunate thing about the 'net is that we tend to push up prices of whatever we say as "good". Also interesting to see the seller makes iris blade count as a selling point!
I must keep quiet about the recomputed version of the Trioplan 100/2.8 with high refractive glass elements. |
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:20 am Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
some guys have all the luck... _________________
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Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
no-X wrote: |
MF-addicted wrote: |
There is a Trioplanomania in the last days. |
That's the right word...
Click here to see on Ebay
$316, 2.5 days till the end... |
I can't believe that. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I think Canon, Nikon, Sigma, Tamron and other manufacturers should think about that... _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:54 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Back last summer I used to see them going for 50-80GBP. I wish I'd picked one up at that price. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Orio wrote: |
no-X wrote: |
MF-addicted wrote: |
There is a Trioplanomania in the last days. |
That's the right word...
Click here to see on Ebay
$316, 2.5 days till the end... |
I can't believe that. |
I can. Because on eBay, GOOD pictures are the key to successful sales. _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6549 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
no-X wrote: |
MF-addicted wrote: |
There is a Trioplanomania in the last days. |
That's the right word...
Click here to see on Ebay
$316, 2.5 days till the end... |
Madness, utter madness _________________ Dave - Moderator
Camera Fiend and Biograph Operator
If I wanted soot and whitewash I'd be a chimney sweep and house painter.
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BUY FRESH FOMAPAN TO HELP KEEP THE FACTORY ALIVE ---
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FOMAPAN on forum -
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shadows
Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 122 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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shadows wrote:
Farside wrote: |
no-X wrote: |
MF-addicted wrote: |
There is a Trioplanomania in the last days. |
That's the right word...
Click here to see on Ebay
$316, 2.5 days till the end... |
Madness, utter madness |
It should be relatively easy to polish the aluminum, maybe I should do this with mine and resell it as mint.
People go crazy when they see shiny things and the word mint somewhere in the description.
Same thing happens when you give Free Shipping, but jack up the price of the item to cover the shipping anyway.
The brain of some people will go into must buy it now mode. |
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Seele
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 741 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Seele wrote:
The original finish of the lens barrel was a fine lathe-turned texture which would be impossible to replicate by polishing alone, it would take someone who has seen these lenses in the flesh to tell if a lens had been "refurbished".
However, I suspect that a very small number of units were finished in black, that actually makes the lens quite pleasant to the eyes. |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Seele wrote: |
However, I suspect that a very small number of units were finished in black, that actually makes the lens quite pleasant to the eyes. |
Interesting. Do you have a link to a photo of the black version? _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 803 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:21 am Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
The only black one I know is the Trioplan N 2.8/100
https://ssl.allegro.pl/item623219917_trioplan_n_2_8_100_meyer_optik_stan_bdb.html _________________
EOS 5D MK II, EOS 5D Classic, EOS 400D --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Canon FD to EOS converted: FD 1,4/24 asph, FD 2,8/300 L
Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
Lenses for sale, please contact via PM: None at the moment
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hexi
Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: |
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hexi wrote:
Terrific lens itself in built and design quality, and the pictures !! the one @f8 meh, now i want one ^.^
they seem to be rare, but i'll keep an eye on 'em |
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Seele
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 741 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Seele wrote:
MF-addicted,
The Trioplan N was only made for Exakta with automatic iris, and never released as pre-set for M42.
Spotmatic,
Several years ago one turned up on eBay but of course the page has long gone. It's identical to the bright finish but just in black. |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
no-X wrote: |
MF-addicted wrote: |
There is a Trioplanomania in the last days. |
That's the right word...
Click here to see on Ebay
$316, 2.5 days till the end... |
Oh No !!! Completely crazy...
Thanks to Wariaq, I paid mine 49€ (really mint condition, see in the equipment gallery). _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
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shadows
Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 122 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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shadows wrote:
Seele wrote: |
The original finish of the lens barrel was a fine lathe-turned texture which would be impossible to replicate by polishing alone, it would take someone who has seen these lenses in the flesh to tell if a lens had been "refurbished".
However, I suspect that a very small number of units were finished in black, that actually makes the lens quite pleasant to the eyes. |
If you go about polishing it in a random pattern yea it would be noticeable, but they are ways to polish metal that should keep the stria look on the lens. |
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Seele
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 741 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Seele wrote:
shadows wrote: |
If you go about polishing it in a random pattern yea it would be noticeable, but they are ways to polish metal that should keep the stria look on the lens. |
If you can do it and also take out the inevitable bumps and scratches, you'd have to get it anodizes too, as the aluminium can rot quite spectacularly... come to think of it, get it finished in black... or Tweety yellow, just to be unique! |
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