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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: [PRINT] My VERY first print :-) |
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Orio wrote:
OK, I know this isn't anything special
I made it in my very first day in the course's darkroom. I wasn't taught yet how to do dodging and burning, so it's only a "bare bone" print so to say. Yet it was very fun And I believe, real B&W prints look nothing like computer conversions. They have a special "breath" to them - I don't know if scanning the print kills it though.
P.S. technical data:
Contax RX camera
Vario-Sonnar 35-70 lens
Kodak T-Max 400 film pushed to 800
Kodak T-Max developer
Ilford RC IV pearl paper _________________ Orio, Administrator
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:08 am Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
looks fantastic!
I am still amazed of film ..!
Nice picture, by the way..
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piticu
Joined: 04 Aug 2008 Posts: 591 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:15 am Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
Yeah, i like the picture too _________________ www.atelierelealbe.eu |
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Jieffe
Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 754 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Jieffe wrote:
A succesfull first print ! Nice picture too.
For dodge and burning, it helps to have 4 hands. Well, you could always ask for help to the young ladies
You understand now why there are so many methods to try emulating B&W in digital ... There is more in BW prints than a simple color desature. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks guys
No more young ladies... the course is over I'll have to develop a couple of extra arms myself Or ask for Monica's help.
Anyway, if I keep the timer on the left, near to the red filter location, and use long exposure times, it shouldn't be too difficult (I hope)... _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Jieffe
Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 754 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Jieffe wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Anyway, if I keep the timer on the left, near to the red filter location, and use long exposure times, it shouldn't be too difficult (I hope)... |
With experience, I acquired a very good sense of timing until about 30 seconds by just counting. In fact, I never had a timer.
Long exposure, masks (a simple shape cut in cardboard and held with a metal wire) or hands for more complicated masking, and above all, practice.
All of this is good fun ... well, a bit for nerds but aren't we all ? (that's what the GF said when I told her my new external rangefinder was "cute" ) |
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GrahamNR17
Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1855 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Congratulations on your new addiction I hope you never recover from it, and become a life-long addict
My first print was of tits. I was a trainee in a black and white lab. A guy came in and asked for dev only of the film, and insisted he have no prints. I developed the film and when I held it up to the light I could see big knockers
I told my boss and he screamed at me from the other room "THEN MAKE SOME FUCKING PRINTS YOU FOOL, BIG ONES!"
So my first print was 20x24 inch (51x61cm). At that size her "Tri-X tits" looked like sandpaper and my print was as over-exposed as she was |
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Xpres
Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 964 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
GrahamNR17 wrote: |
Congratulations on your new addiction I hope you never recover from it, and become a life-long addict
My first print was of tits. I was a trainee in a black and white lab. A guy came in and asked for dev only of the film, and insisted he have no prints. I developed the film and when I held it up to the light I could see big knockers
I told my boss and he screamed at me from the other room "THEN MAKE SOME FUCKING PRINTS YOU FOOL, BIG ONES!"
So my first print was 20x24 inch (51x61cm). At that size her "Tri-X tits" looked like sandpaper and my print was as over-exposed as she was |
Well done Orio.... Your well on the way... _________________ Film... and sometimes SD14, 5D2 and some other suff! |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Well done Orio. Your description of the "breath" puts me in mind of the early phases of digital sound - compared with vinyl they completely lacked the "airiness" "breathing" that we were used to. Interesting - your choice of description
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magnet-2009
Joined: 22 Apr 2009 Posts: 505 Location: Greece, Athens
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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magnet-2009 wrote:
Orio, it's very good. Keep on developing....and printing. |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Wow! Excellent first effort! |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Yes, there is something special about this print, even on a monitor and after scanning. Almost like the emulsion produces "denser" prints. Anyway, this is actually pretty fantastic!
Of course, you should get a frame around this first print and keep it as a wonderful reminder as you start out in film developing and printing. _________________
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:13 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
looks great ! go on like this ... if first print looks like this ... how will look the 2nd one or even your 1000th one
Cheers
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: My VERY first print :-) |
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spiralcity wrote:
Orio wrote: |
OK, I know this isn't anything special
I made it in my very first day in the course's darkroom. I wasn't taught yet how to do dodging and burning, so it's only a "bare bone" print so to say. Yet it was very fun And I believe, real B&W prints look nothing like computer conversions. They have a special "breath" to them - I don't know if scanning the print kills it though.
P.S. technical data:
Contax RX camera
Vario-Sonnar 35-70 lens
Kodak T-Max 400 film pushed to 800
Kodak T-Max developer
Ilford RC IV pearl paper |
Orio,
Do you visit APUG,com? It's a great place for fans of film. _________________ Nikons : F4-EM-FG-FE2-FA-EL-FTN-N2020-N70-F Nikkorex
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Chinon: CE4s-CM4s-CM5
Pentax: ME-Soptmatic
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: My VERY first print :-) |
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Orio wrote:
spiralcity wrote: |
Orio,
Do you visit APUG,com? It's a great place for fans of film. |
I don't understand, if I go there:
http://www.apug.com
a site comes up that doesn't seem to have anything to do with film... _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Ferrania film is reborn! http://www.filmferrania.it/
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GrahamNR17
Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1855 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: My VERY first print :-) |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Orio wrote: |
spiralcity wrote: |
Orio,
Do you visit APUG,com? It's a great place for fans of film. |
I don't understand, if I go there:
http://www.apug.com
a site comes up that doesn't seem to have anything to do with film... |
It's http://www.apug.org |
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: My VERY first print :-) |
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spiralcity wrote:
Orio wrote: |
spiralcity wrote: |
Orio,
Do you visit APUG,com? It's a great place for fans of film. |
I don't understand, if I go there:
http://www.apug.com
a site comes up that doesn't seem to have anything to do with film... |
Sorry Orio, it should have been apug.org
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Chinon: CE4s-CM4s-CM5
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
thanks! Nice link. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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