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stonedes
Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 27
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:38 am Post subject: Colors: Fujinon 200/4.5 EBC M42 |
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stonedes wrote:
Recent purchase that I finally got out and used...Nice little prime lens. Vibrant colors from the makers of Velvia. Not especially well built, but does have a unique 2 piece built-in hood.
I don't like using the Fujinon lenses with my G1 adapter because when I tighten the lens it makes the aperture hard to turn. I think that's a flaw of the lens design. I hope they would work better on their native Fujica cameras.
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Fujinonuser
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 128 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Fujinonuser wrote:
You just have to hone off a very small protrusion on the aperture control ring towards the rear of the lens. This is only needed for open-aperture metering with Fujica ST cameras. On all other cameras or camera adapters it will block the free movement of the ACR. Without it, you'll have all benefits of a normal M42 lens.
The EBC Fujinon 200mm is one of my favorite Fujinon lenses because you can use it at its maximum aperture in full quality. That statement held true when I used this lens in film photography and it remains true in digital photography. The glass elements are relatively small for a 200mm lens (filter diameter 49mm) and I have had 200mm lenses that weighed quite a lot more. I can detect no or almost no CA in digital shots with this lens. Although it is long, it is light, in a solid metal tube and comes with double-length retractable lens shade.
The following freehand shot of a heron was taken at f=4.5 without a tripod, no PP, although this is a downsized crop from the center of the original, taken with a Canon 500D on a rainy, cloudy day. Please note the many different shades of green. EBC Fujinon lenses arguably have the best green rendering of any lenses that I had a chance to test. Both Canon and Nikon will not be as faithful in rendering green colors as Fujinon lenses are.
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
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EBC Fujinon lenses arguably have the best green rendering of any lenses that I had a chance to test. Both Canon and Nikon will not be as faithful in rendering green colors as Fujinon lenses are. |
I agree.
I tested some 50/1,4 lenses, including EBC fujinon, FD Canon ssc, pentax smc m, CZ HFT Planar
EBC has best green color. _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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stonedes
Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 27
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:41 am Post subject: |
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stonedes wrote:
Fujinonuser and Iaza, thank you for the replies. Love the photo of the heron! I see the protrusion that you are talking about. Its very small, but yes, it must affect how the ACR turns. Thank you for the insight. I dont seem to have this problem on other lenses. I think its just the way the Fuijinons are made.
I've been able to collect a few Fujinons. I don't like the 50/1.4 EBC as much, just not as stellar as some of the other Fujinons. My other Fujinon is the 55 Macro which I adore. It has the about the best bokeh and I'm willing to put up with alot with that lens for the fine results it gives!
Now that spring is coming here, I'm going to give these EBC lenses a workout to see this nice green that you mention. |
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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
stonedes wrote: |
I've been able to collect a few Fujinons. I don't like the 50/1.4 EBC as much, just not as stellar as some of the other Fujinons. |
Funny, I have most of the M42 EBC Fujinon primes and the 50mm f/1.4 is my favourite… Which makes it one of my favourite lenses overall as well, I like the images better than, e.g., S-M-C Takumar 50mm f/1.4. |
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stonedes
Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 27
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:38 am Post subject: |
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stonedes wrote:
Arkku wrote: |
stonedes wrote: |
I've been able to collect a few Fujinons. I don't like the 50/1.4 EBC as much, just not as stellar as some of the other Fujinons. |
Funny, I have most of the M42 EBC Fujinon primes and the 50mm f/1.4 is my favourite… Which makes it one of my favourite lenses overall as well, I like the images better than, e.g., S-M-C Takumar 50mm f/1.4. |
Arkku, isn't lens preference a funny thing? In the short tryout I gave it, I just could not see the results with the Fujinon 50 that I saw with the SMC Tak or the 8 element Super Tak (2 lenses with very different character, btw). I might even prefer the Mamiya Sekor 55/1.4 over the Fuji in M42's.
However, I know that you know the Fujinons well and I am going to try the EBC 50 again before I sell it. Maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance. |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
stonedes wrote: |
Arkku wrote: |
stonedes wrote: |
I've been able to collect a few Fujinons. I don't like the 50/1.4 EBC as much, just not as stellar as some of the other Fujinons. |
Funny, I have most of the M42 EBC Fujinon primes and the 50mm f/1.4 is my favourite… Which makes it one of my favourite lenses overall as well, I like the images better than, e.g., S-M-C Takumar 50mm f/1.4. |
Arkku, isn't lens preference a funny thing? In the short tryout I gave it, I just could not see the results with the Fujinon 50 that I saw with the SMC Tak or the 8 element Super Tak (2 lenses with very different character, btw). I might even prefer the Mamiya Sekor 55/1.4 over the Fuji in M42's.
However, I know that you know the Fujinons well and I am going to try the EBC 50 again before I sell it. Maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance. |
That is my general opinion as well using film......For my type of photography all I want from a lens is:- more chance to get "pop" and a pleasant back ground bokeh and very sharp stopped down (i.e. not worried about WO). Well there was nothing special in the results from a few shots I've seen using my 50mm, 100mm, 135mm and 200mm Fuji ebc lenses, but maybe I should use them more often? Well I would, but in my tests for resolution only (stopped down) I have slightly better lenses (and they are not expensive). _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
I think colour rendering is the overall strong point of the Fujinon lenses; this may be hard to notice in tests but really hits you in sunny scenes with sunlit flora and such (unfortunately not easy to produce such shots right now in Finland). For the 50mm f/1.4 in particular, the bokeh is often not as smooth as with the S-M-C Takumar equivalent, which is why I also did not originally think so much of this lens, but I have actually grown to prefer the “painterly” character of the Fujinon's bokeh. But, yes, it's largely a matter of personal perference. |
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Fujinonuser
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 128 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Fujinonuser wrote:
@Stonedes The tiny protrusion on the aperture ring of Fujinon lenses will give you only trouble with the newer Fujinon lenses (EBC or non-EBC). The first Fujinon lenses issued from 1971 onwards featured a silver-color aperture ring and lack aperture coupling. Those early lenses are generally also very sharp.
I agree with your opinion about the Fujinon 55mm macro lens. There are some very good sample shots to be found elsewhere on MFlenses. I still keep a professional comparative test report from a German photo magazine where the Fujinon turned out better results than the Nikkor Micro lens.
Lens preference is a very subjective matter of opinion. I only had two Pentax Takumars (SMC and non-SMC) and I didn't personally like the creamy rendering of the lighter colors. White should remain white. Takumars may have a slightly higher resolution, but this may result in a softer appearance. The Fujinon colors are clear and contrasty with a full range of tonal grades. The latter you will notice when shooting a Kodak color chart in controlled lighting conditions.
Fujinon colors must be seen to be believed. I like the 1.8 / 55mm standard lens that surprises me time and again. The following shot was taken with this lens on a hot summer day in full sunshine which is a difficult lighting situation because of the high light temperature and abundant blue sky.
Please share some of your photos with your Fujinon Macro lens with us, as soon as there is enough light. |
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indianadinos
Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 1310 Location: Toulouse, France
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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indianadinos wrote:
Fujinonuser wrote: |
Please share some of your photos with your Fujinon Macro lens with us, as soon as there is enough light. |
Well, if you ask so politely ... Here you go, although there are not really "macro" shots ...
EBC Fujinon Macro 55 f/3.5:
At f/5.6, on my 5DII (click on the pic, display the full res one, look at the eye of the parrot):
EBC Fujinon Macro 55 f3.5 - _MG_7522 by indianadinos, on Flickr
On my K10D (didn't note the f/stop):
Stepping out with a Fujinon - IMGP4406 by indianadinos, on Flickr
Fujinons are great not only in green rendering but also in red rendering, IMHO ...
Edit: Forgot to say, there was only minimal PP on these pics, just to adjust EV level ... _________________ Please visit my blogs Shooting with a Pentax K10D / FF Visions
Takumar: 24/3.5, 28/3.5, 35/2, 35/3.5, 50/1.4, 55/1.8, 85/1.8, 105/2.8, 120/2.8, 135/3.5, 150/4, 200/4
Pentax-K: M28/2.8, K28/3.5, M50/1.4, A50/1.7, M50/4 Macro, K85/1.8, K105/2.8, K135/2.5, M200/4, M70-150/4
Zeiss: Flektogon 20/2.8, 20/4, 35/2.4, 35/2.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Biotar 58/2, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer: Primagon 35/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Trioplan 100/2.8, Orestor 100/2.8, Orestor 135/2.8
Schacht/Steinheil: Travenar 90/2.8, Travenon 135/4.5, Quinar 135/2.8, Quinar 135/3.5
Russian: MIR 37B, Industar 50/3.5, Helios 44M & 44M-2, Jupiter 37A
P6: Flektogon 50/4, Biometar 80/2.8, Orestor 300/4
Nikkor: Nikkor-O 35/2, Micro 55/3.5, Nikkor-S 50/1.4, Nikkor-Q 135/2.8
Fuji: EBC 28/3.5, EBC 55/3.5 Macro, EBC 135/2.5
Misc Lenses: Kiron 105/2.8 Macro, Tamron SP90/2.5
... and a few other Vivitar, Tamron, Sigma and Soligor lenses ...
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Fujinonuser
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 128 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Fujinonuser wrote:
Fantastic. Isn't it a splendour and a glory?! Keep posting, if you like. |
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