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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject: Eeep! Amateur Photographer May 2009 |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I just picked up a copy of the above and there's a big manual focus article...we've been rumbled!!
The Takumar 105mm M42 got the thumbs up, even though they tested it on a Nikon with a glass adapter _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g
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gil
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 73 Location: San Jose, CA, U.S.A.
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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gil wrote:
Not having access to that magazine (not even sure if being sold in my side of the U.S.), could you please summarize the article other than the choice of the mentioned lens. As of now, prices had gone up and if the article was very positive, as you might have concluded already, bad for beginners like me .
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GrahamNR17
Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1855 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Eeep! Amateur photgrapher May 2009 |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Shrek wrote: |
I just picked up a copy of the above and there's a big manual focus article...we've been rumbled!!
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Oh bugger |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
gil wrote: |
Not having access to that magazine (not even sure if being sold in my side of the U.S.), could you please summarize the article other than the choice of the mentioned lens. As of now, prices had gone up and if the article was very positive, as you might have concluded already, bad for beginners like me .
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OK, first off there's a £50.00 challenge...each journo went out and spent £50.00 on a used camera.
They came back with:
a) Rank Mamiya with 40mm lens (£45)
b) Zenit TTL (£5)
And had some good results!! I'm totally gonna take out some of my old Zenits now
There's an article about cheap medium format cameras and fairs and then a whole section on bargain used DSLRs and film cameras.
There's a two page spread on making your own darkroom (oooh must try it!) but it's pretty basic stuff.
Next, the dangerous article! "Breaking the rules" - adapting old lenses to digital SLRs. There's the Takumar article (hope AP don't mind me quoting a bit) "I am very impressed with the results...no significant vignetting, even on the full-frame D3. At f5.6 the lens is pin sharp and capable of resolving a lot of detail, but even wide open at f2.8, image quality is higher than I would expect from some kit lenses...out of focus areas are rendered with a gorgeous smoothness"
Next up a Leitz Summicon DR 50mm f2 is mounted to a Lumix G1: "This lens is simply gorgeous".
A Canon EF 135/2.8 is mounted to an Eos and the D300 gains an ai 50/1.4 and a pre-ai 35/2.
A 135/2.8 K mount Pentax is mounted via bellows to a Samsung GX20.
In summary "In fact, after seeing how well the Takumar 1-5/2.8 performs, I may start building a collection of M42 mount lenses"
Quick, burn them all _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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Mal1905
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1705 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
Shrek wrote: |
Quick, burn them all |
Brilliant idea - here's some code I've just written to ward off the curious...
[insert into meta tag search system]Manual Lenses Are Evil - Burn Them All - Manual Lenses Are Evil[/insert into meta tag search system]
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Canon EOS 5D / EOS 40D
Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 2.8/35, Pancolar 2/50, MC 1.8/50, MC 1.8/80, Triotar 4/135, Tessar 2.8/50, S 4/135 1Q, S 3.5/135, Sonnar 3.5/135 MC, 2.8/180, Biotar 2/5,8cm, 2/58, 1.5/75
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 2/28 T*, 1.4/35 T*, Ultron 1.8/50, Tessar 2.8/50, Planar 1.4/50 T* MM, 1.7/50 T* MM, 1.4/85 T* AEG, Sonnar 2.8/135 T*
Asahi Optical Co.: Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 2.8/120, 2.5/135 I & II, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4/300, 5.6/400, 4/45-125, 4.5/85-210, Super-Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4.5/70-150, Fish-Eye-Takumar 4/17, Macro-Takumar 4/50, Super-Macro Takumar 4/50, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 4/50, 4/100, Bellows-Takumar 4/100, Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 3.5/50, 2.4/58, 3.5/100, Asahi-Kogaku Tele-Takumar 3.5/135, Auto-Takumar 2.3/35, 3.5/35, 1.8/55, 1.8/55 (Zebra), 2/55, 2.2/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, Takumar 4/35, 2.2/55, 2/58, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 5.6/200, 6.3/300, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, SMC-M 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 2/50
Tomioka: Tominon 2/5cm, Auto-Chinon 3.5/21, 1.4/55, Auto-Yashinon DS-M 1.2/55 |
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Poolhall
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 1296
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Poolhall wrote:
Bastards! run for the hills! they have finally realized what we know! aaaaaaaaaaaaagh prices will go through the roof |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I heard that all manual focus lenses have fungus which will give your camera pig flu!
Seriously though, how many amateur photographers will really give it a go? I only picked up the mag because there was a headline on the front "Save a fortune" and I love saving a fortune _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Having been an occasional "poacher" on UK ebay, this is bad news.
Some things really are cheaper on ebay.uk
Or they were. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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mUg
Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 128
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Eeep! Amateur Photographer May 2009 |
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mUg wrote:
Shrek wrote: |
I just picked up a copy of the above and there's a big manual focus article...we've been rumbled!!
The Takumar 105mm M42 got the thumbs up, even though they tested it on a Nikon with a glass adapter |
Well, the lens is good but...a glass adapter? not fair for both camera and lens
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I only picked up the mag because there was a headline on the front "Save a fortune" and I love saving a fortune |
who doesn't?
Anyway, you're right we must burn the evil mag all the way down to avoid this nasty news coming up to the AF crowd |
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Mal1905
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1705 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
Alternatively we change the forum name to something innocuous like :
canonandnikonaflensesarethebestthingsinceslicedbreadandwhywouldanybodyintheirrightmindevenconsiderusingoldfungussysmellyquitepossiblyownedpreviouslybysomebodywhoisnowdeadlenses.com
Just a suggestion, like _________________
Canon EOS 5D / EOS 40D
Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 2.8/35, Pancolar 2/50, MC 1.8/50, MC 1.8/80, Triotar 4/135, Tessar 2.8/50, S 4/135 1Q, S 3.5/135, Sonnar 3.5/135 MC, 2.8/180, Biotar 2/5,8cm, 2/58, 1.5/75
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 2/28 T*, 1.4/35 T*, Ultron 1.8/50, Tessar 2.8/50, Planar 1.4/50 T* MM, 1.7/50 T* MM, 1.4/85 T* AEG, Sonnar 2.8/135 T*
Asahi Optical Co.: Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 2.8/120, 2.5/135 I & II, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4/300, 5.6/400, 4/45-125, 4.5/85-210, Super-Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4.5/70-150, Fish-Eye-Takumar 4/17, Macro-Takumar 4/50, Super-Macro Takumar 4/50, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 4/50, 4/100, Bellows-Takumar 4/100, Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 3.5/50, 2.4/58, 3.5/100, Asahi-Kogaku Tele-Takumar 3.5/135, Auto-Takumar 2.3/35, 3.5/35, 1.8/55, 1.8/55 (Zebra), 2/55, 2.2/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, Takumar 4/35, 2.2/55, 2/58, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 5.6/200, 6.3/300, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, SMC-M 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 2/50
Tomioka: Tominon 2/5cm, Auto-Chinon 3.5/21, 1.4/55, Auto-Yashinon DS-M 1.2/55 |
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: UK Amateur Photographer mag |
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scsambrook wrote:
Must get my copy of "AP" asap, but most of this mag's articles are written by digi-geeks who work hard at giving the impression that their ignorance of anything pre-1999 using film is exceeded only by their inability to write for an intelligent audience. And as there's now no significant advertising revenue from dealers in secondhand equipment you can be pretty sure there'll be little sustained drum-banging in favour of resurrecting "old" lenses.
For those unfamiliar with the world's oldest weekly photographic journal, it runs an irregular column featuring "classic" fillm cameras which essentially concentrates on collecting rather than using them - the latest article featured the Argus C3 and its siblings. The mag's best contributor by a long, long way is Dr Geoffrey Crawley who writes most of the technical articles and does lens reviews. He's the man who invented the legendary Paterson "Acu" family of developers and wrote the searching 1970s reviews of the Nikon and Contarex systems.
MF forum members ought not to worry too much about the effects on eBay prices - AP regularly preaches on the Wickedness and Danger lurking there for the unwary (whcih I suppose is partly true!). UK site prices have been climbing steadily this year anyway, perhaps driven by competition from MF members themselves - ! _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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gil
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 73 Location: San Jose, CA, U.S.A.
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:49 am Post subject: |
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gil wrote:
Thanks much Shrek for the summary.
gil |
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