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horvlas
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 202 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: Nikkor-H Auto 3.5/28 |
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horvlas wrote:
Hello. Does anyone has any experience with this lens? I didn't find any performance information on the net. How does it comare to other 28mm lens? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57839 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I had AI lens worst from Nikkor.. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject: Nikkor 28mm |
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scsambrook wrote:
The later version with multi-coating (black filter ring - non-mc version has chrome) was quite a bit better than the earlier one - more contrast and a more "lively" image. Maybe not Nikon's best lens from the period, but actually quite usable and certainly worth buying if the price is reasonable. Many were converted to AI or AI-S configuration, but a really clean one in its original state will be attractive to a Nikon collector who's just starting. Better not to modify a mint one - plenty of scruffy ones out there !
The focusing movement is often (usually) rather "dry" and/or loose. _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
I was a bit surprised to see this thread. I had thoughts about starting a thread on it as soon as I had some shots to publish.
I have had this lens for a while now. It came as a part of a package. But it's not until this weekend I had a chance to try it out.
I have the pre-AI Nikkor H and it has been AI converted.
Only 5 F-stops 3.5 - 16 and on my lens the focus ring is rather stiff.
From a mechanical point of view I think these old Nikkors makes a very solid impression.
My own very subjective opinion is that it's sharp enough and I can't see any CA to speak of. It doesn't seem to be sensitive to strong back light. Since I'm using it on a digital body I can't really judge the FX performance.
Some samples (also note our fine Easter weather):
_________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: Nikkor H 28mm |
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scsambrook wrote:
Sven - lovely sky-and-water images, nothing lacking in technical or artistic quality there ! _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57839 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Sven, nice samples like this makes every lens to champion! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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NikonD
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 1922 Location: Slovenija
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:56 am Post subject: |
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NikonD wrote:
I have AI-S version of the lens and it's amongst the sharpest lenses in my bag even wide open, no loss of contrast or sharpness... corners are a bit (just a bit) soft at F3.5
F3.5
F8
close-up (50cm away)
F3.5
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
This was Nikon's budget lens at this focal length. It was always reasonably priced and can be picked up today for very little money.
Lacking CRC it does not focs as close, nor are the close subject results as good, as the f/2.8 or f/2 28mm lenses. For medium and far distances its probably similar to the other Nikkors, just with a slower max aperture.
further information _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I never had this lens.
I used to have the 35mm f/2.8 Nippon Kogaku version and it was really ugly (something that I never said of any of my other Nikkor lenses)
For a moment when reading this thread I thought it was about the 2.8/35 instead of the 3.5/28 _________________ Orio, Administrator
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NikonD
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 1922 Location: Slovenija
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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NikonD wrote:
ChrisLilley wrote: |
Lacking CRC it does not focs as close, nor are the close subject results as good, as the f/2.8 or f/2 28mm lenses. For medium and far distances its probably similar to the other Nikkors, just with a slower max aperture. |
my version focuses 30cm close, 2.8 version focuses to 20cm... |
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
NikonD wrote: |
ChrisLilley wrote: |
Lacking CRC it does not focs as close, nor are the close subject results as good, as the f/2.8 or f/2 28mm lenses. For medium and far distances its probably similar to the other Nikkors, just with a slower max aperture. |
my version focuses 30cm close, 2.8 version focuses to 20cm... |
Yes. And the Nikkor-H here focuses to 60cm. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Impressive Chris.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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peterm1
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 224
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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peterm1 wrote:
Many reports on the internet say the 28 f3.5 is very good on digital cameras _________________ PeterM |
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Seymore wrote: |
My AI Nikkor 28/3.5 can get below 1' (.25M?) |
12 inches is 0.3m. (multiply inches by 25.4 to get millimetres). _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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