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pdh
Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:08 am Post subject: 28mm f/2 choices for Olympus OM ? |
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pdh wrote:
I'm just moving into the OM world and I'm wanting a 28mm f/2 for my OM-1n (I want the extra stop, 2.8 is no good to me)
The Zuiko versions are tricky to find and seem a bit variable. Of two I've recently found, one looked like it had been cleaned with Ajax and the other had fungus. Both only just under £200 ... I see others on e(xpensive)Bay for £400-£500 and that just seems a bit mad of a price
There are Kiron and Vivitar (Komine) alternatives which are much more inexpensive, but I wondered what the compromises are compared to the Zuikos?
Will I really notice the difference (shooting Tri-X or HP5+ and printing 11x14 or smaller) if I spend £50 rather than £250 on a 28/2? |
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:16 am Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
From my friend´s experience, who has got the Kiron 28/2, it is at least comparable to OM 28/2.8 in terms of picture quality. I think for this kind of films investment into better lens will not bring much better results. However £250 is price for OM28/2 in excellent condition AND all equipment(sun shade,leather box). Pieces in user condition and without equipment can be had for much lower. My advice is to go for Kiron and save money for film. _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do
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pdh
Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:25 am Post subject: |
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pdh wrote:
thanks berraneck. |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Just be sure to check that the Kiron / Vivitar is fully functioning. Oil on blades seems to cause problems with this model. _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
berraneck wrote: |
From my friend´s experience, who has got the Kiron 28/2, it is at least comparable to OM 28/2.8 in terms of picture quality. I think for this kind of films investment into better lens will not bring much better results. However £250 is price for OM28/2 in excellent condition AND all equipment(sun shade,leather box). Pieces in user condition and without equipment can be had for much lower. My advice is to go for Kiron and save money for film. |
+1 I did try several ones, include most famous 28mm f2.0 Contax Hollywood Distagon and agree. _________________ -------------------------------
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pdh
Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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pdh wrote:
I wondered if someone might say "Isn't 2.8 fast enough? ... it's only a stop faster than 2 " ... but of course then at 2.8 it's only a stop faster than 4 ... and at 4 it's only a stop faster than 5.6 ... and ... "
In the kind of photographs I take, in the sort of light I often have available, It's the difference between being able to shoot at 1/30s handheld (which I can do) and 1/15s handheld (which I can't easily). |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
pdh wrote: |
I wondered if someone might say "Isn't 2.8 fast enough? ... it's only a stop faster than 2 " ... but of course then at 2.8 it's only a stop faster than 4 ... and at 4 it's only a stop faster than 5.6 ... and ... "
In the kind of photographs I take, in the sort of light I often have available, It's the difference between being able to shoot at 1/30s handheld (which I can do) and 1/15s handheld (which I can't easily). |
To me both speeds are thin ice and often unsuccessful, true I rare shoot in bad light. My safe zone is 1/125 as minimum if need to go lover I do use tripod or mono pod. _________________ -------------------------------
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pdh
Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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pdh wrote:
I like to "travel light" and dislike carrying more than just a camera.
I only very rarely use a tripod, for the odd night shot and when I'm shooting 4x5 pinholes. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
pdh wrote: |
I like to "travel light" and dislike carrying more than just a camera.
I only very rarely use a tripod, for the odd night shot and when I'm shooting 4x5 pinholes. |
I have a very light good tripod for emergency in my bag pack, it has no weight and did rescued many pictures to me. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
For film bodies, it is critical, but for digital it is not.
The Kiron 28/2 is good for film bodies. |
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SXR_Mark
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 506 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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SXR_Mark wrote:
It may well be true that the Kiron 28/f2 is as good as the Zuiko 28/f2.8 on film, but on digital (specifically m4/3) there is simply no comparison. The Zuiko at f2.8 beats the Kiron at f4 in terms of sharpness. The Kiron is unusably soft and low in contrast at f2 (on digital) in my opinion. Note that "unusable" is a subjective personal opinion here.
The Zuiko 28/f2.8 is one on my favourite lenses. It gives superb results at f2.8 and is a lens that I consider 100% effective wide open (meaning I am as happy to use it wide open as stopped down).
I should note that I have had two copies of both the Kiron and the Zuiko and had the same relative opinion of them all.
Mark _________________ Olympus OM-D E-M1 for everything |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:07 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
FWIW, I don't find the Kiron 28/2 unusably soft.
I do find it difficult to focus accurately at f/2
Wide angles are not so easy to manually focus anyway.
At f/2 because of the narrow DOF for critical sharpness, but relatively broad DOF for so-so sharpness, it makes it hard to get results that stand up to pixel-peeping. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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pdh
Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:13 am Post subject: |
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pdh wrote:
None of my lenses - Leica included - stand up to pixel-peeping on scans of the sorts of film I use.
I shan't be using this lens on my digital camera, remember, it's for an OM-1n
it's how my pictures look wet printed that I care about, so the overall impression of sharpness and consistency across the frame into the corners is what I find most important. |
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