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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:56 pm Post subject: Piesker picon 135/3.5 ...first test images |
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mo wrote:
I have just done some quick test shots in quite harsh mid morning light so don't read to much into these as technical shots.
This is the lens HERE
It is soft but has some good detail in the image.My first impression is I like it and I just have to work to get the best from it ie subject matter and different light situations..I do like the colors it produces.It does come with a short hood with an inbuilt glass filter...I did not use the hood for these images.
I did find it very hard to focus on anything,I mean to see the subject I was focusing on clearly with my eye while looking through the viewfinder.I used the K200Ds green conformation dot as a guide when focusing.
#1
#2 The focus is on a leaf...
#3 The focus is on the red leaves/branch in the gap...the sun is above the frame in this image.
#4 The focus is meant to be on the front flowers,I included this shot as I liked the background.
#5 The focus is on the wood
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Rob
Joined: 03 Jan 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Reedsville, PA, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Rob wrote:
Your experience with the Picon definitely parallel mine. I did essentially the same thing when using the K-x when trying to focus. I should try it on an M42 body and see if it is easier to focus with a split prism.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Rare lens, congrats! Looks coating is weak, two click PP would be a nice lens. _________________ -------------------------------
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:52 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Hi Rob,
Welcome to the forum. What serial number is your lens?
Attila,
I only did minimal post processing to these ,as the light was too bright this morning and I was fighting a losing battle with the PP. I will try it with the hood on and see if it makes a difference. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Rob
Joined: 03 Jan 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Reedsville, PA, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Rob wrote:
Hi Mo,
Thanks. I've been lurking for over a year and its time that I participate.
The serial number of mine is 12016.
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:27 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I lurked awhile before I joined...I hope to see some of your images.
Yours is a low serial as well, I wonder how many of these lens were produced? _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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hifisapi
Joined: 25 Sep 2012 Posts: 941 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:51 am Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
Contrast appears very low. This may be one of the reasons why its difficult to focus properly. _________________ ===========
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:33 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
A good hood is very important. Also look for haze on the surfaces by the diaphragm. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:46 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Here are some more images in the afternoon light...with the Hood on. There is some haze on the glass in the very front element...I have yet to try and open that end,I did do a brief clean when the lens first arrived.
I made a conscious effort to get the focus right on these and I have cropped and boosted the contrast etc. I think you need to click on the images to get the best view. My cat model has disappeared so I could not get the portrait shot...
#1 In the shade
#2
#3
#4
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Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:27 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
The lens itself is a beautiful piece.
First and last photos might not in focus.
#2 and #3 in second series are nice.
what f-stop are you using? I am thinking you might stepping down one or two to increase contrast and sharpness (for most lenses but not always)
Regarding PP,
Try to adjust -0.33 or -0.25 in exposure, increase fill light, increase black level - that even out a bit the harsh light. _________________ La migliore cura di LBA � imparare una nuova lingua. Le meilleur rem�de de LBA est d'apprendre une nouvelle langue. La mejor cura del LBA es aprender una nueva lengua. |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:33 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I am mainly trying to use the stops between F8-3.5...I am also trying to use/work out the lenses preset ring, but I may be accidentally turning the wrong ring....therefore changing the actual f stop.
I will take some images tomorrow and record the F stops used as I tend to forget exactly which F stop is used when it comes to posting these up.Thanks for the PP tips.I have posted another set up of the cat in another thread HERE _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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