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 Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: External accurate rangefinder. |
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Attila wrote:
I bought a Bessa I as you know , I thinking on it to get an accessory rangefinder. Any suggestion ?
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
That's a tough one.
I put a Voigtlander one on my watch list yesterday but now it is gone.
I have an external one that has a wrist strap.
It is from a Hunting goods store for deer hunters to use with their rifles.
The very long baseline makes for extreme accuracy but it is not show mounted.
You could look for something like this maybe.
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Orio wrote:
Buy a laser rangefinder, it's expensive (but not unreasonably) and very precise.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Thanks! It is not very important because I think I will use my BESA cameras for landscapes. If will be important I think I will buy from Jürgen (certo6.com)
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F16SUNSHINE
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
For landscapes just use hyperfocal.
If you know that infinity is important to be in focus.
Simply work backwards from there.
It is easier and more acurate to work from rear focus point when using hyperfocal 
Orio's charts is perfect for this.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| Buy a laser rangefinder, it's expensive (but not unreasonably) and very precise. |
The cheaper ones (I've got one) are useless for photographers.
So, if you plan to buy one, get a good one...
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Thank you guys!
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Nesster wrote:
I have one that I've checked to be accurate enough... but I don't actually use it. Estimating distance isn't too hard to get used to.
At any rate, here are the instructions for mine, these should apply to similar ones for setting the infinity point.
larger, readable size here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nesster/972667404/in/set-72157594578815656/
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Attila wrote:
Might be I didn't get you well, did you offer yours for sale ?
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koji wrote:
This is a bit too large, the rangefinder for Battle ship YAMATO made by NIKON.
Its base length is 15m wide, it sank a US carrier at 33 Km away.
here is replicas
http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/issoyamakan/17661661.html
Just for fun.
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Laurence wrote:
Attila, give me your address and I'll send mine to you! It just sits in the box waiting to be used.
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Attila wrote:
How lucky I am ! Many thanks!
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| How lucky I am ! Many thanks! |
You are very welcome my friend! It is a very accurate Voigtlander with its own neat leather case. It fits on the cold shoe of the camera, of course. Or...you can just put it up to the film plane and go from there if you don't have a cold shoe.
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Attila wrote:
Wow! Voigtlander! Double luck! It will fit so much for my Bessa I.
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Larry
Super excellent
Koji
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Farside wrote:
Ah, now I know what that is. Thank you. I recall seeing those 'ears' sticking out of the side of the Director Tower, but I thought they were just supports for the radar arrays.
Must've been some fearsome optics in that. I wonder what mount they had? 
As far as the camera rangefinder goes - I found a Pullin one; it's pretty good and even though it's fifty years old isn't yellowed or faded like many of them, plus it's adjustable if it gets dropped.
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koji wrote:
I did dig deeper this time.
Here is another rangefinder (Gun base with a RF)>
Here is a design diagram and picture (??) of Battle ship YAMATO and MUSASHI's big RFs
Extremely complex and has two viewing stations for 15.72m and 15.28m on the top of each
Left and Right view-finders. WOW
size of object mirror 120mm
size of object lens 120mm
magnification x 30
vewing angle 1' 30'' (1 degree and 30 second)
exit pupil 4mm (only !!)
range 5 Km - 50 Km
diameter 600mm
operators 7 people
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Same guy's collection made in Germany and how to use it (scroll down)
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Enjoy.....
Addenda: Battle ship YAMATO used the above RF, and sank a US aircraft carrier at 33 km away,
his principal gun of 45cm has 45 km range of shooting. He used only two bullets to sink the ship!
"bullet" is a wrong word for this, I just don't know how to say. 
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Farside wrote:
That's incredible optical engineering, thanks for showing us that.
I know the Yamato was feared, and with good reason, by the look of it. But even as it was being planned, its day was passing, like so many other huge battleships of that time.
Oh, not bullet, but shell.
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