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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: Steinheil Tele-Quinar 200/4.5 - notes on Steinheil mounts |
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luisalegria wrote:
I picked this up rather cheap, perhaps because it came in Exakta mount and its missing its dedicated lens hood, or maybe because the seller mispelled "Steinheil" as "Steinhell" -
The hood is easily fixed, as the filter threads on this are Series VII, or almost. The mount is more interesting. I could have mounted it using my Exakta->PK arrangements, but I have a better solution. I had heard that Steinheil lens mounts for its preset lenses were compatible, and could be switched around.
I have a Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5 in M42. After removing the setscrews, the mount unscrews, and they indeed can be screwed on the other lens - the only problem is that you will have to be certain to put the setscrews back in properly so the lens is right side up. So if you have Steinheils and find another one in some odd mount, don't despair.
As for the lens - well, its just plain lovely, like Steinheils usually are. The construction and finish are first rate, all satin-finish nickel-brass and impeccably machined. The tripod mount is not very useful as it doesn't rotate, which makes it a problem on M42 mounts. But that was a common fault in those days.
The lens focuses down to 7 feet/2 m, which is very good for a 200mm prime, this makes this a very useful flower lens. Performance is also good even wide-open, I have no complaints, though this is not quite the sharpest 200mm I've tried - I have a Tamron and a Tokina preset that would probably beat it, but I have little interest in such tests. It did seem harder to nail focus with this today than some others, I don't know why. It could just be me.
Not quite focused, but I like the color -
The bird -
crop -
_________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Luis
That is a wow lens. I have a couple of Steinheils (old ones in M42 mounts) and I really love them. This is a very convincing set of exemplars
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Bob
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 675 Location: Wentzville, Mo.
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Bob wrote:
Great lens and photos. I think #9 is my old philosophy professor. _________________ Bob
"In terms of addiction, there is nothing more powerful than men's toys."
Sammy Davis Jr. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Luis, as always, greats pics.
Not so sharp? It's enough for me.
Bob
your old philosophy professor, is my mother-in-law ?
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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conor12
Joined: 18 Apr 2008 Posts: 129 Location: Dublin
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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conor12 wrote:
Well I can confirm that this process works with the 2.8/135 tele quinar also and I love it. My tripod mount is about 1/3 of a turn off center though, making it unuseable. I now have a 200 on the way and plan to do the same. The only problem with these beauties is all the attention they get you on the street. People who aren't into photography will stare, let alone your usual auto focus dslr user. _________________ Yashica: 2.8/24
Leitz: Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-R 2/50
Zeiss: Biotar 1.5/75, Contax Vario-Sonnar 4/80-200
Asahi: SMC Takumar 1.4/50
Zenit: Helios 44-M |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57839 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
So excellent! congrats! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Again marvelous photos, Leuis.
No.8 has interesting background, what are they?
(Houses in a long shot, hill in the back.) _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Hi Koji,
This is a shot looking South-East from near the South edge of San Francisco. The houses in the sun are in the Excelsior district, south of Mission Street.
The houses going up the hill are on the slope of Mt. San Bruno, they are actually outside the municipality of San Francisco, in the town of Brisbane I think. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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