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piticu
Joined: 04 Aug 2008 Posts: 591 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: Helios 44-2 58m f2 |
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piticu wrote:
I took some samples today with this beautiful lens:
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Great samples ! Especially first one! _________________ -------------------------------
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Nice shots, Piticu!
Which camera are you using for them?.
Are you using any extension tube or similar?
Thanks!
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Number 4 and 5 look like Sorbus torminalis !
I looked for this tree for very long!
In the past was very common, today hard to find except in the wild. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Piticu -- superb!
You know how to play with bokeh !
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piticu
Joined: 04 Aug 2008 Posts: 591 Location: Romania
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:05 am Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
Thank you guys. I'm glad that you liked the samples.
Jesito wrote: |
Which camera are you using for them?.
Are you using any extension tube or similar? |
A Nikon D2x Jes, with no extension tube, just a glass-less adapter and a dirty sensor
Orio wrote: |
Number 4 and 5 look like Sorbus torminalis !
I looked for this tree for very long! |
I know almost nothing about trees but from what i've seen on wikipedia, it could be. I'll ask my father in law about it, he's a forester and he should know for sure what is it. _________________ www.atelierelealbe.eu
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
No actually, at a second look I am sure it's a Crataegus species. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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piticu
Joined: 04 Aug 2008 Posts: 591 Location: Romania
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:14 am Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
All I know for sure Orio is that there is a lot of Rosa canina in that aria, you can still see some fruits:
pic taken with a Vivitar 28mm f2.8 f-mount _________________ www.atelierelealbe.eu
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
Great shots. _________________ John |
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
I like #4. The sun light looks very well controlled and thought out. |
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exen
Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Turkey
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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exen wrote:
This is my Zenit's Lens. Excellent photos. Maybe one day i can take photos like yours using my Zenit. _________________
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piticu
Joined: 04 Aug 2008 Posts: 591 Location: Romania
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
You can take great photos using ANY camere, it really doesn't matter if it's a Zenit, a Nikon or something else — they're just tools _________________ www.atelierelealbe.eu |
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exen
Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Turkey
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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exen wrote:
Human takes the photos, not cameras ?! I am learning using this wonderful site. Thanks. _________________
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piticu
Joined: 04 Aug 2008 Posts: 591 Location: Romania
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
exen wrote: |
Human takes the photos, not cameras ?! |
I didn't exactly said that but feel free to understand whatever suits you _________________ www.atelierelealbe.eu |
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6549 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
The 44-2 is one of the 20th century's greatest pleasant surprises for the money.
Many people are still put off buying one because they still think something as cheap and plentiful can't be as good as anything with a brand name - how wrong they are. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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piticu
Joined: 04 Aug 2008 Posts: 591 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:40 am Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
Farside wrote: |
The 44-2 is one of the 20th century's greatest pleasant surprises for the money.
Many people are still put off buying one because they still think something as cheap and plentiful can't be as good as anything with a brand name - how wrong they are. |
Couldn't agree more. But i don't think it's entirely their fault, let's not forget the marketing guys _________________ www.atelierelealbe.eu |
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Scribo
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 19
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Scribo wrote:
Farside wrote: |
The 44-2 is one of the 20th century's greatest pleasant surprises for the money.
Many people are still put off buying one because they still think something as cheap and plentiful can't be as good as anything with a brand name - how wrong they are. |
The same can be said of many older Russian lenses. Superb performance for a bargain price. I also think that people are sometimes put off by the reputation for uneven quality, a reputation not entire undeserved if we are talking about FSU lenses.
I have never found a Russian lens I didn't like. I realize that I've been lucky in terms of build quality, but it's more than that. Russian lenses have a certain distinctive touch in their image rendering, very rich tones though not super high contrast -- really closer to "old German" than anything else manufactured elsewhere after about 1970 or '75.
While most German makers started chasing the high-contrast Japanese look about 35 years ago, Russian manufacturers basically stuck with the standards of the late 1940s and early 50s. (After all, they didn't have to worry about commercial success!) In many ways the Russians were the "keepers of the flame" in terms of subtle, naturalistic, tonal rendering.
It's like being able to buy a classic Zeiss lens at one-tenth the price, and usually in better condition.
I do have to qualify one statement above: I think Leica never really abandoned the tonal standards that distinguished good German lenses before WWII and in the decade and a half after. But Leica glass isn't a bargain. |
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yalcinaydin
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 825 Location: Izmir, Turkey
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: |
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yalcinaydin wrote:
This one has the highest price/performance ratio among my lenses, a clear winner for just 8USD. My test samples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/yalcinaydin/sets/7215760757603868/ _________________ My name is "Yalcin", and exactly "Yalçın" and here you can find my MF samples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/yalcinaydin/sets/
Right now switching back to AF because of work needs but I still love the MF lenses |
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1435 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
Farside wrote: |
The 44-2 is one of the 20th century's greatest pleasant surprises for the money.
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The 44-6 is much, much greater pleasure. Exactly for the same money. |
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Prometheus
Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 878 Location: Garphyttan, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Prometheus wrote:
LittleAlex wrote: |
The 44-6 is much, much greater |
I like 44-3! _________________ Retrocamera.net |
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piticu
Joined: 04 Aug 2008 Posts: 591 Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
Prometheus wrote: |
I like 44-3! |
I got one yesterday, unfortunately broken _________________ www.atelierelealbe.eu |
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1435 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
Prometheus wrote: |
LittleAlex wrote: |
The 44-6 is much, much greater |
I like 44-3! |
I believe you never had the chance to compare. If you would, you will immediately change your preferences. Really it was the best line of the Hellos lens. Some claim that 44-7 was even better, but my own comparison showed clearly the supremacy of the 44-6. However, it might be due to the individual quality of my particular exemplar of 44-7. |
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exen
Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Turkey
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:01 am Post subject: |
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exen wrote:
piticu wrote: |
Prometheus wrote: |
I like 44-3! |
I got one yesterday, unfortunately broken |
how much did you pay? _________________
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Asa100
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 57
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Asa100 wrote:
Helios 44-2. This lens never stops surprising
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57840 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Scribo wrote: |
Farside wrote: |
The 44-2 is one of the 20th century's greatest pleasant surprises for the money.
Many people are still put off buying one because they still think something as cheap and plentiful can't be as good as anything with a brand name - how wrong they are. |
The same can be said of many older Russian lenses. Superb performance for a bargain price. I also think that people are sometimes put off by the reputation for uneven quality, a reputation not entire undeserved if we are talking about FSU lenses.
I have never found a Russian lens I didn't like. I realize that I've been lucky in terms of build quality, but it's more than that. Russian lenses have a certain distinctive touch in their image rendering, very rich tones though not super high contrast -- really closer to "old German" than anything else manufactured elsewhere after about 1970 or '75.
While most German makers started chasing the high-contrast Japanese look about 35 years ago, Russian manufacturers basically stuck with the standards of the late 1940s and early 50s. (After all, they didn't have to worry about commercial success!) In many ways the Russians were the "keepers of the flame" in terms of subtle, naturalistic, tonal rendering.
It's like being able to buy a classic Zeiss lens at one-tenth the price, and usually in better condition.
I do have to qualify one statement above: I think Leica never really abandoned the tonal standards that distinguished good German lenses before WWII and in the decade and a half after. But Leica glass isn't a bargain. |
They took technology, glass , experts ,machinery from Germans after WWII that was a very good start for them and we should not forget talents of Russian people. _________________ -------------------------------
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