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Jesito
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 Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: Leatherette.... the year end comes soon! |
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Jesito wrote:
Hi colleagues!
As you know most of second hand cameras have some trouble with the leatherette covering. In the past it was made up of some paper derivative, so it supports aging not very well.
I use to recycle old agendas (peeling off the leatherette) and keep a stock for fixing the small rangefinders I like to repair.
There is one nice time in the year where lots of agendas are dropped into the wastebaskets: Year end.
Other opportunities are when people is relocated inside the office. That is happening in my office these days. People use to cleanup the desks when packing and throw everything they have been collecting for years. Just to avoid packing an additional box.
So I've got a lot of old agendas that have filled my leatherette stock and needs. In several colours and sizes. From a standard agenda, you can replace about two or three camera's leatherette.
A round cutter is very useful to cutout the borders.
Keep an eye on the baskets!.
Jes.
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DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
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Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
 Great idea!
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peterqd wrote:
You're going to use that bright red are you???
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Jesito
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Jesito wrote:
| peterqd wrote: |
| You're going to use that bright red are you??? |
Peter,
I already did it 
Jes.
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Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
I like it looks a "rapper" camera cool really!
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Jesito
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Jesito wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| I like it looks a "rapper" camera cool really! |
Thanks Attila,
At that time it was the only leatherette I had handy...
Now probably I would put something more classic, like lizzard or zebra skin 
Jes.
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Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
CSCCanon EOS-M, Samsung NX100 and NX210, Lumix G5, NEX-F3 |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
| Jesito wrote: |
| Attila wrote: |
| I like it looks a "rapper" camera cool really! |
Thanks Attila,
At that time it was the only leatherette I had handy...
Now probably I would put something more classic, like lizzard or zebra skin
Jes. |
 even better
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ryan s
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ryan s wrote:
My MX is begging to be done in a darker red (like Indian Red from cameraleather).
What do you use to hold the leatherette on the camera?
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Jesito
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Jesito wrote:
| ryan s wrote: |
My MX is begging to be done in a darker red (like Indian Red from cameraleather).
What do you use to hold the leatherette on the camera? |
Epoxy glue (UHU brand). Not sure if it's the best one for this.
Jes.
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Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
CSCCanon EOS-M, Samsung NX100 and NX210, Lumix G5, NEX-F3 |
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peterqd
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peterqd wrote:
Ryan, here's an interesting discussion form the Camera Repair Forum
http://www.kyphoto.com/classics/forum/messages/3/9800.html?1211220277
It's difficult to recommend a brand name as they're different over there to here. You need to be able to peel the leather off again fairly easily, so a latex type adhesive is best, as it doesn't become too hard. Epoxy glue sounds too strong to me, and I've also been recommended white PVA glue (woodworking glue) but I've never used it as this also hardens. I've found a perfect glue here in our local village shop - Bostik All Purpose Non-Solvent Adhesive - it's a glue for children!
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ryan s
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ryan s wrote:
Hmmm, thanks Peter. I know my mom has various craft-type glues sitting around, even the Alene's mentioned in the link you provided. It seems like wood glue would make the leather more "brittle" like aged leather...although, I'm not sure since I (obviously) haven't done the procedure.
Between my mom's craft stuff and my dad's woodworking/handyman adhesives stashes, there has to be something in their house that would do the job
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Jesito
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Jesito wrote:
| peterqd wrote: |
| I've found a perfect glue here in our local village shop - Bostik All Purpose Non-Solvent Adhesive - it's a glue for children! |
Hi Peter, have you tried it already to glue the leatherette to the camera's metal body?.
Yesterday a took a look to the Praktica VLC3. I glued the covering with UHU. It's not really leatherette but a thick flexible plastic element. And to my surprise, it started to peel of by itsef i the corners. So I'm really interested in having an alternative that sticks better to metal...
Jes.
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Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
CSCCanon EOS-M, Samsung NX100 and NX210, Lumix G5, NEX-F3 |
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peterqd
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
| Jesito wrote: |
| peterqd wrote: |
| I've found a perfect glue here in our local village shop - Bostik All Purpose Non-Solvent Adhesive - it's a glue for children! |
Hi Peter, have you tried it already to glue the leatherette to the camera's metal body?.
Yesterday a took a look to the Praktica VLC3. I glued the covering with UHU. It's not really leatherette but a thick flexible plastic element. And to my surprise, it started to peel of by itsef i the corners. So I'm really interested in having an alternative that sticks better to metal...
Jes. |
Yes, on two cameras, and I also mended the Minolta ER case with it. It's certainly the best I've tried so far.
You can use it like simple kids' PVA white glue, or like a contact adhesive, where you smear it thinly on both surfaces and allow it to almost dry before joining the surfaces. And being water-soluble, you can wipe it off with a damp cloth before it cures.
Here it is from an online seller, but strangely I can't find it on the Bostik website:
http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-44-6888-11779-bostik-all-purpose-solvent-free-adhesive-20ml.asp?iCategoryID1=6888
I can get you a tube in our local shop if you can wait for the post.
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Jesito
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
| peterqd wrote: |
Yes, on two cameras, and I also mended the Minolta ER case with it. It's certainly the best I've tried so far.
You can use it like simple kids' PVA white glue, or like a contact adhesive, where you smear it thinly on both surfaces and allow it to almost dry before joining the surfaces. And being water-soluble, you can wipe it off with a damp cloth before it cures.
Here it is from an online seller, but strangely I can't find it on the Bostik website:
http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-44-6888-11779-bostik-all-purpose-solvent-free-adhesive-20ml.asp?iCategoryID1=6888
I can get you a tube in our local shop if you can wait for the post. |
Hi Peter, thanks a lot!.
I've got a couple of doubts/questions:
1. It's still water soluble after cure?. (I suppose it is not...)
2. Have you tried to peel it off after some time?. (just to know how easy will be removing the leatherette in the future).
3. I love the "like contact cement" trick... Do you apply some pressure for a while, after sticking the two sides togheter?.
Kind regards,
Jes.
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Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
CSCCanon EOS-M, Samsung NX100 and NX210, Lumix G5, NEX-F3 |
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peterqd
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peterqd wrote:
Hi Jes. No, it's not water soluble after it had dried. I don't know about the pressure - the lining in the front of the Minolta ER case has stuck fine without it, but I guess it would help. I just tried peeling the leatherette on the Praktica and it peeled beuatifully, just like the original glue.
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